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post #121 of 531
2/4/04 at 10:07am
Hey, whatever happened to the plots of the Telarc Beethoven 1812 Overture? Ming???
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post #122 of 531
2/4/04 at 5:20pm
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Hmmm, I can't believe I missed that out.

I'll try to get to that tonight( if work doesn't get the better of me)
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post #123 of 531
2/5/04 at 7:30am
Thanks Ming, but I would like the plot of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture and not Beethoven's 1812 Overture:b
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post #124 of 531
2/5/04 at 8:43am
Ming, has anyone mentioned a request for the scene in Freaky Friday where the mom and daughter change bodies at the Chinese restaurant? Maybe I am the only one that noticed but it took me and my guest by surprise when we watch it...(thanks SVS). I had to hunt down the remote! Shook the room quite well for movie of its type.
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post #125 of 531
2/24/04 at 6:32pm
Right at the beginning of Underworld (after logos), a bass hit causes a rattle in my equipment -- something that has not happened before through all the titles listed here.

Any clues as to the frequency being hit?

jdg
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post #126 of 531
2/25/04 at 6:51am
JohnDG,

RudiB posted here that he would post some plots from Underworld once he gets it (I'm guessing that it may not have released yet in Slovenia). Keep an eye on his thread and you may see a chart for this eventually.

JKS
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post #127 of 531
2/25/04 at 9:01am
Sure... No problem...

(BTW, the DVD-rip with AC3 sound from you-know-where wasn't impressive at all in the sound department. I'll wait for the official R2 DVD release and rent it.)
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post #128 of 531
3/2/04 at 9:25am
Hey All,

SVS has some new waterfall charts up here.

Including:
Atlantis (“Leviathan Moves” is as impressive as I thought it would be)
Attack of the Clones
Blue Man Group
The Core

Possibly more coming if Tom’s taking them in Alphabetical order . . .

[EDIT]
More added...

Final Destination 2
The Hulk
Ice Age
Jurassic Park 3
K-19 Widowmaker
LOTR: FOTR
LOTR: TTT (Check out "Oliphants Charge" full bore stuff below 20Hz)
[/EDIT]

Still more coming...
Finding Nemo
The Matrix Reloaded
Minority Report
Monsters Inc.
Spy Game

JKS
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post #129 of 531
3/11/04 at 8:52pm
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Matrix Revolutions : The Machine City SPEAKS!


Check out the ultra deep voice of the machine city. Say hello to deep harmonics all the way down to 20hz AND below. Do I see a 10hz harmonic?

The final fight sequence between Neo and Smith have bass centered about 30hz, but extend down to 16hz regularly. Guys with SVS's 16-46 or PB2+ (tuned to 16hz of course) is gonna feel bass closing in on you.

The are just too many infrasonics scattered everywhere that makes it difficult to create a good waterfall chart. But with a deep sub, you'll know when the 18hz punches/kicks/thunder happens. (Not all punches/kicks/thunder will have infrasonics)

But this voice of the machine city waterfall should clear up curiousity about how low the voice goes.
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post #130 of 531
3/15/04 at 4:12pm
I am new to this forum and while I have yet to hear Blackhawk Down on a great system I believe the reports of the bass. My clinic is situated just past the end of the runway of an Airforce Base and I hear f-16's and f-18's zooming by all day. Last week I was taking a nap in my car after lunch when a pair of blackhawks flew over me in formation at low altitude. I guess you can say I was awake after that. :b

Yohann
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post #131 of 531
3/15/04 at 5:22pm
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I'd wonder what would happen if a pair of chinooks flew over at low altitude........
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post #132 of 531
3/15/04 at 11:05pm
we got chinooks here in misawa, and recently some blackhawks landed here. i believe the blackhawks have more bass. but at my last base, the C-130s i worked on refueled helicopters, so we be out about 500ft. over the water at night, with NVGs on and our legs dangling off the ramp, refueling army blackhawks and chinooks, and if you turned the NVGs off, all you could hear besides the air rushing by at 150mph was the beat of the helicopter 75ft away, and then i'm sure the chinooks sounded louder and maybe lower. man that was fun, my job now is not as cool.

eric
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post #133 of 531
4/7/04 at 9:14am
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all you could hear besides the air rushing by at 150mph was the beat of the helicopter 75ft away, and then i'm sure the chinooks sounded louder and maybe lower.


I would guess so with these specs!




Chinook HC2 Specifications

Engines:
Two Avco Lycoming turboshafts

Length:
51ft 0in (15.54m)

Rotor Diameter:
60ft 0in (18.29m)

Top Speed:
185mph (298 km/h)

Accommodation:
Crew of two to four plus up to 54 troops or 28,000lb payload

Dual blades beating the hell out the air should sound louder. Duals are cool!
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post #134 of 531
4/7/04 at 9:39pm
The menu from Texas Chain Saw Massacre feels great!
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post #135 of 531
4/8/04 at 9:36am
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The final fight sequence between Neo and Smith have bass centered about 30hz, but extend down to 16hz regularly. Guys with SVS's 16-46 or PB2+ (tuned to 16hz of course) is gonna feel bass closing in on you.


Just watched Revolutions last night with the PB2-Ultra. Just friggin' amazing. I have found SVS to be very conservative with the rated extension of the PB2+ and Ultra. The PB2-Ultra in the 20 Hz tune digs right to 15 Hz. In fact, due to room gain, the level at 15 Hz is still higher in my 2000 ft3 room than the average level in the 30-100 Hz region. The PB2-Ultra in the 20 Hz tune is SO strong in the 15-20 Hz region, it really has to be heard first hand to be fully appreciated.

The 16-46 enclosure is a bottom dweller supreme, and actually gets down to 12-13 Hz in-room, and so would the PB2+ if tuned to 16 Hz. IMO that kind of extension is not needed even for Revolutions (I don't see much red below 15-16 Hz), and the trade-off in lost port area with the PB2 is not worth it. Make no mistake though, if you want it ALL from your sub in the native tune, the 16-46 is still the king of bottom feeders.

Ed
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post #136 of 531
4/8/04 at 2:56pm
I actually use a BFD filter to remove some bass at 18-22Hz, the boost was just too much and overpowering.

I had the ultimate room curve going on, and as much as it is really cool to feel the floor moving (and rattling the OUTSIDE of my house)...I have a new BFD setting which is mostly flat. It is a nice position to be in, using EQ to remove bass where usually it is a struggle.
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post #137 of 531
5/17/04 at 9:56pm
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I think this is one impressive sequence. The single cannon shot from the bow of the ship annd the broadside barrage digs down deep, thou centered at about 35hz. This should keep 99% of subwoofer owners feeling good about their sub.

What about the remainder 1% of subs the real men use? *grunt*

The broadside cannons dig down to below 10hz. But we won't even know that infrasonics are there since there are loud harmonics at 35hz that mask away the deep bass.

BUT, check out ~0:14:05 timestamp. I see a 12hz harmonic on its own, standing out like a lighthouse. There's little or no freq harmonics nearby that masks this infrasonic information. I think only dual 12hz-tuned 16-46PC+ will be able resolve this infrasonic detail. I don't think many even realised this 12hz info.......

I just got to try this with my triplets.
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post #138 of 531
5/18/04 at 6:45am
Very COOL Ming! Thx for your time on plolting this scence.
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post #139 of 531
5/18/04 at 8:26pm
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Tks terence.

:b
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post #140 of 531
6/2/04 at 12:26am
Believe me Ming, I noticed. I was bottoming my SVS 20-39PC+ on that cannon shot, until I realized my SS-filter was set to 12hz. People told me that it's unlikely there was much <20hz noise on that scene, and that with the filter turned up to 20hz, I wouldn't be missing much.

I think they were wrong.

In fact, I have noticed a big difference during that whole sequence without all of the sub 16hz stuff. Guess I have an ear (or a hand, considering it's more of a feeling thing at that point) for it.
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post #141 of 531
6/2/04 at 4:34am
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I was bottoming my SVS 20-39PC+ on that cannon shot, until I realized my SS-filter was set to 12hz. People told me that it's unlikely there was much <20hz noise on that scene, and that with the filter turned up to 20hz, I wouldn't be missing much.

I think they were wrong.

Nick - take another look at the single cannon shot that bottomed your 20-39PC+.

Three pink blobs at 28, 32, and 35 Hz. Pink is at/near the maximum encoding level.

Some reddish/yellow stuff at 25-17 Hz - still easily within the limits of the stock tune 20-39PC+. Note, reddish yellow is about 30-35 dB below the maximum encoding level.

A mostly yellow and faint red blob at 10-14 Hz. The amplitude of this signal is about 40 dB below maximum.

Since the dB scale is log10, anything yellow or faint red will be completely overshadowed by the three pink blobs. 99+% of the signal content in from that single cannon shot occurs in the 28-35 Hz region.

What bottomed your 20-39PC+ was the presence of the reddish yellow blob at 17-20 Hz, which was considerably boosted by setting the EQ switch to 12 Hz. But those frequencies are still well within the capabilities of your 20-39PC+ in the stock tune; they just won't be artificially boosted by EQ resulting from the mismatched tune.
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post #142 of 531
6/2/04 at 5:39am
that blast was AWESOME! now I see why the PB2Ultra startled me during that scene.
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post #143 of 531
6/2/04 at 9:07am
Has anyone watched Starship Troopers 2? It's a mediocre movie but I found there were a few scenes in there that suprised me with the amount of bass. I don't have any time stamps but IIRC the first 10-15 minutes should provide a few examples.
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post #144 of 531
6/2/04 at 4:26pm
Ed, sorry, I should have clarified. It wasn't the single shot that was doing it, it was the broadside barrage, which has some -25db strong stuff all the way down to 12hz, and -35db stuff all the way down to 0hz.
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post #145 of 531
6/23/04 at 7:49am
Longtime reader, first time poster to this thread.

Just recently saw Step into Liquid. Lots of big waves to flex your sub. It was definately loud and most striking, long. Some of the longest sustained low bass I had ever heard on my system. The bass in the scene where the guy gets on the 60 ft. wave just goes and goes and goes. Fun stuff. Anyone seen it. Plot it? Definately a better film than Blue Crush. Wondewring how it compares bass wise.
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post #146 of 531
6/23/04 at 7:49am
Longtime reader, first time poster to this thread.

Just recently saw Step into Liquid. Lots of big waves to flex your sub. It was definately loud and most striking, long. Some of the longest sustained low bass I had ever heard on my system. The bass in the scene where the guy gets on the 60 ft. wave just goes and goes and goes. Fun stuff. Anyone seen it. Plot it? Definately a better film than Blue Crush. Wondewring how it compares bass wise.
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post #147 of 531
6/23/04 at 8:17am
Hi WadeB,

Is this the movie you are talking about?





If so, i will NetFlix it today.
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post #148 of 531
6/23/04 at 8:17am
Hi WadeB,

Is this the movie you are talking about?





If so, i will NetFlix it today.
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post #149 of 531
6/23/04 at 8:20am
Tee, that's it. I Netflixed it also. The photography is also great. I won't say anything else until you've seen it. Enjoy!
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post #150 of 531
6/23/04 at 8:20am
Tee, that's it. I Netflixed it also. The photography is also great. I won't say anything else until you've seen it. Enjoy!
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