The Wire, Season 2 - Page 4

I also noticed they are giving plenty of room for a showdown between Stringer and Avon for season 3 if Avon gets out of prison.

I look at it like Avon thinking that if he shows any weakness in the Towers that eventually Proposition Joe or someone else will try to take them from him.

Note that there's no episode this Sunday, July 20. The next episode will debut on July 27. Hard to believe there are only five more in the season.

M.

Proposition Joe was asking stringer for a position in some of the towers in exchange for his heroin. P.Joe would never sell good H to a rival crew while he could just watch them die on the vine from some bad product. What he was esentially saying is "Im moving in on your turf in a peacful takeover, in exchange, you get to keep SOMETHING instead of me buying most of your muscle over time and killing who cant be bought." (Guys like Poot and Boodie go where the cash is)
If Stringer bites, he buys time, but still would lose his power eventually due to the fact that Joe has 1)the uncut heroin which he could withhold from the Barksdale Crew at any time. 2) The Russian/Greek/Isralei muscle and 3)All of the East Side, and Some of the West (prime real estate in the towers)
Joe said that all the junkies from the West are coming into his turf for the good shit. Imagine what would happen if all they had to do was walk over to Tower 4 (or whatever) to line Prop.Joes pockets! They dont call him Proposition for nothing.
String HAS to take the deal. With great packages flooding the East side, Omars crew dedicated to robbing the Barksdale stash (remember that Prop Joe and Omar are in bed), and Avon refusing to make the deal or offer a discount Stringer has two choices. Wait a year or so to hand a dead business back over to Avon (who now has a record) or make deals, build power and screw Avon when he gets out.
Now all you gotta do is convince Brianna that Avon was to blame for D and all Avon has is lifer Wee-Bay in his corner. (Everyone on the street delt with String, never with Avon)
The show is heating up and no third season would be one of the great tragedies in TV history. If HBO would give the Wire half the chance it gave Arli$$ were in good shape.

Next Sunday is a long ways away.

He definitely wanted to, but I think after seeing the pictures of her kids, he started to think about his wife being home with his 2 kids...

After that scene, my wife asked me whether I thought McNulty walked out because he was thinking of his own wife and kids or because he didn't want to get caught up in another situation exactly like the home life he'd just left behind.

My answer was "yes".

M.

Great episode and was thrilled it was on last night. Good recap of the show Matt.

Fuzzy Dunlop is Herc's cousin. Remember Herc telling him "You are going to do thi sb/c my mother and your mother are sisters." Herc and Carver are so Heckyl and Jeckyl it's too funny, when Carver snapped the picture right in Fuzzy's face was classic.

Thanks goodness for TV and movies b/c there is NO WAY the waitress working a Diner during 'last call' hours is that good looking. To quote Mikey from Swingers, "that is the skank shift, but boy could she work it. McNutty crashing his car not once but twice was too funny, he is a drunk.

The show is really coming together now, the Police have the Docks pretty dialed in right now.

The police think they have the docks covered pretty well but Frank figuring out the wire situation might throw a kink or 2 in the mix.

What the heck was up with the Duck? What was Ziggy doing with the blind man getup and is the duck now the bar mascot or something?

Dunlop was the tennis ball. Tennis balls are fuzzy.

they're having herc's cousin pose as an informant so they can claim he got them useful information, and they can get money from the police to pay for it. of course, they're just keeping the money, i presume as you said, to pay off the bug.

I have no idea what the duck is all about. I never even put the tennis ball and Fuzzy Dunlop together, that's pretty clever.

I was laughing when the Dock workers were telling Ziggy that he could take that guy, "Bad advice! You f'ers gave me bad advice!"

Russell is really liking this case, she was all excited when she left with McNulty and was touching Freeman.

And how many cops have you seen recently who look like Dominic West (a/k/a McNulty)?

My wife and I recently passed a large group of New York's finest who had been detailed to monitor a demonstration in Union Square. She turned to me and said (very softly), "The not-so-thin blue line!" Literally at just that moment, the nearest cop turned to his partner and said loudly, "Where's the nearest MacDonald's?"

M.

Great show. I also loved the line "takes a whore to get a whore". Russell was definetly attracted to Mcnulty from the first time she saw him, and definetly would've let him have her at her house. I don't know if it's good acting or not, but I got all of that from just the look in her eyes and the "signals" she was giving off.

I love how the Wire shows that both sides, the cops and the criminals are intelligent and smart, and in a way that doesn't glorify crime. Seems the wire is getting a lot of buzz in the hiphop community, seems like half the rap videos are using the Wire actors and themes.

Just a great show, it even has a sense of humor which is well appreciated. That duck is just classic!

Seems like the cop was blind, too... There's a McDonald's right on Union Square West.

Oh yeah, The Wire. Is anyone else actually rooting for Frank or is it just me?

I am kind of rooting for Frank I guess. Heck in some ways the show made you root for the Barksdales as well. One key difference I guess is that no matter what you think about unions in general, in the end, Frank is doing dirty deeds to raise money, not to enrich himself directly but to get the legislators to pass pork barrel projects to keep more guys working, not quite the same as selling drugs on the street.

I agree with Lee about Frank and how he doesn't use any of his money on himself, but uses it to help his dock workers. I like your take also Matt, I never really looked at it like that.

Also, did Frank just put the bad container on the truck just to see what would happen, and if it got stopped than there wouldn't be a problem? If the cops are watching you, would you not want to have anything stolen off the docks no matter what it was? I was thinking he should just of had horseface lose containers just to show the cops that mistakes can happen. Frank probably doesn't think the Cops know that much though.

Oh yeah, I want a poster of this show so bad to frame and put it on my wall. I also htought bout getting a tattoo similar to Matt's sig but I think I will wait on that one.

Reguardless of his intentions, Frank is helping pump narcotics and stolen goods onto the street. I dont care if he was supporting an orphanage with the money.

Yeah, but the whole system and world is corrupt beyond reason. Frank's motives can be judged as good, trying to help out his fellow man, so I find myself rooting for him. Also because he's smart and passionate and could go toe to toe with anybody on the series.

I should have expanded my post a little. Frank is definitely aiding and abetting organized crime so he is responsible for drugs being in "Balmer". The road to hell is paved with good intentions and he has been heading down the road for years. As was said earlier, the thing I like about the show is it really delves in to the complex issues from all sides. I think Frank somehow beleives he is not as bad as the street dealers when in the end he is worse now that he has given the Greeks the raw materials for enough drugs for multiple dealers to sell.

from what i've seen, frank has had no dealings with drug or drug trafficking. he's lost a few containers with cameras or booze or other stuff for the greeks to sell themselves for a profit. just dealing with hard goods. but it was only until nick came in with ziggy that they started stealing the containers that held the chemicals to process drugs. which may end up being the thing that brings them all down.

you saw how completely upset frank was when he realized that the greeks were smuggling women in through his port. i think he's as upright a person as he can be, and whatever corners he's cut have been with the intention of keeping the docks open, and as many men as possible in jobs for as long as possible. i don't think he's used that money for nice houses for himself(we've seen his home), cars, fancy toys or anything like that. everything seems to be for the benefit of the guys who work for him.

Which is exactly why the contrast with his brother is all more significant. Here we are shown how the two have made (and are continuing to make) different choices. Frank’s brother won’t even take a job that he suspects was created by bribery.


True, but don’t forget that he agreed to keep the containers going even after the women were known to be in the container—and he suspects that this is still going on. In this last episode he specifically makes sure that the hot container that is going into the stacks is checked for women before they put it away.

Further he met personally with these mobsters again this week. It was clear from that meeting that he knows a lot—that plus it was made clear that he knew the demise of the of one of the contacts a few weeks ago.

Finally, he agreed to keep the containers going after they agreed to pay triple the previous amount (from a few weeks ago). Freak is way too streetwise to not be able to put all this together.

He's got more bodies on him than a chinese cemetary . I also liked the "Hello Officer" Line as well. I think we can all see Stringer Bell's downfall coming up,funny how Brianna tells him AVon's reaction yet we neveer see her with Avon this episode, he's also getting handled quite well by Prop. Joe. The one thing that I hate about this show is that the next episode is always a week away, I'm looking forward to see them more than my paychecks.....I also know a guy who rescheduled his marriage counseling around the show....and his wife was just as happy

Great Episode.

Brother Moves On looks like a Malcom X of the underworld. And Stringer thinks he's a week away...

Awesome episode. Speaking of Omar, I wonder when that thread will turn up again. It also looks like Ziggy on the road to screwing things up again.

It was funny to hear Valcheck have a tantrum about the case.