*** Official THE MATRIX RELOADED Discussion Thread

It doesn't come out until friday here which is bizarre on this side of the planet. Only another day and a half until I can see it.

Ebert really liked Reloaded he gave it a ***1/2 Linked Here

Ditto Robert. I'm just hoping it's better than X2.

Sadly...its not as good as X2...

that's funny- Ebert says its better (well, at least he gives TMR ***1/2 whereas X2 rated only a mere ***... w/ the latter being dismissed as dumb fun)

Everybody's entitles to an opinion...no matter how wrong they may be...

The same is true for signature pics! (Sorry I couldn’t resist!)

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...in reply to the above post

one word says it all: "upgrades"

didnt you notice at the beginnning when they are all having a meeting and Neo fights that agents that totally came out of nowhere and all of the sudden he can't just "destroy" them anymore?

...oh and yes I've seen it three times already, and it gets better every time! (theatre worker!) I saw it two weeks ago

Paul...I was wondering the same thing throughtout the Employee screening last night...why is he even bothering with Kung Fu with the Agents or anyone else...like the Gatekeeper...



I find that to be pretty lame...he's the frickin One!

No offense, but did you pay attention to the whole movie?

He is told by the man who created the Matrix that he is not "the one", but in reality the seventh "one" and he really has no power, he is just there to basically make everyone have something to believe in, to strive for.

Well...shoot...I forgot about that...but still...he could destroy Agents at the end of the first movie...yet now he is still doing kung-fu when there should be no need for him to do such a thing...maybe I will have to see it again this week...but I dont remember the Agents at the beginning saying anything about how they are stronger now or anything...

He wasn't "destroying" the agents. Again, Agent Smith told Neo that he freed him when he "blew him up", he did not destroy him. Being freed from the Matrix, Smith actually became stronger somehow and that is how he is able to multiply himself now. That is why he was thanking Neo at the beginning for "freeing" him from the Matrix, as he is not able to do whatever he wants, and somehow he was able to make himself stronger. And also if the man who "created" the Matrix basically created Neo's "strength" like he did for the others, then he would also be able to easily make the agents stronger than Neo has become, again making the Kung-Fu fighting necessary.

Ooh, another Matrix thread!

It'll be nice to discuss the movie as a whole without worrying about spoiling anything for anyone.

I can't believe Morpheus is Neo's father!!!!

Okay...well that makes sense...still doesnt make sense why he just wouldnt fly away before the fight began...I mean he could fly with all those Agents on top of him...why did he even bother to fight...

Yay. Counter to earlier non-plans, I'll be seeing the movie (again) in about an hour. Something about the enthusiasm of the first-night audience is just plain old fun.

See y'all after I get back. Hope the early worms have a good time.

I plan to see it at least one more time...I have a sneaky feeling that I will enjoy it more the second time...but those Zion/Rave scenes I think will forever bug the living crap outta me...

Joshua Y is crusin' for a brusin'. Am i the only one who notices that this review is almost word for word Harry Knolwes review? It sounds like joshua just wanted to piss some of us off with his "Review." I know about two people who have seen this movie and they just can't get over how unbelivably cool this movie is. Well, i guess you can't really trust a guy with an Episode II sig to be too trustworthy on the subject of the matrix. Im leaving this thread before the flame wars start.

He bothered to fight and not to just fly away because it made for one hell of a fight! LOL!

But seriously, IMO he had to fight because he needed to see for himself what he was up against. He didnt want to turn this into something where there are fifty inspirational speeches leading up to an anticlimactic battle scene. I think that he needed to see what Smith was capable of and what has become of him. I think that he had no idea what he was getting himself into though.

Must go to bed. Now.

I'll drop the review in tomorrow, and chat everyone up

Seen it. No worries. Must see again.

I loved it. Conditionally. But I did love it.

My wife knew who the traitor was. She HATED it But she noticed that tidbit when I didn't.

Can't wait to talk.

Much love for the film.

Take care,
Chuck

I just got back and i loved it. Everyone who said they hated it didnt pay attention to everything because its all explained wether you understood it or not. There is a ton of story there which some didnt pay attention to.

capt

Chuck I missed that too! Really enjoyed it. Liked it better than X2(which was a solid but not outstanding flick) - much more ambitious in terms of scope.

GAH! I have to watch it again!

the short:

score was BORING! didn't match up well in most parts to the action.

Agent Smith is now cliche. They could have expanded on his new 'freedom' more and provided more motive for his actions. I found him largely irrelevant. The bigger story was the sentinels closing in on Zion, and I feel the film redeemed itself when Neo stopped them by will, no EMP involved. Now I'm interested again!

WTF was up with Frenchie and his hottie wife and the kiss and the two albino tennis player dudes? I don't get it.

If you stayed after the credits there was a short Revolutions trailer. Agent Smith has a big part in it which will probably make things clearer after the third film

capt

I think I've got my Superman flight fix from this film. There is probably very little reason to make a Superman film (if you want to see someone do some serious flying) in light of how Neo was zipping around in the Matrix. Man, that was just really nifty special effects (both in visuals and sound). Loved it when Neo was just about to take off, and you see the ground sort of trampoline Neo into the sky.

I think you could probably trim about 10 minutes out of the 1st act in Zion, and not lose much.

The car chase scene was just absolutely a joy to watch from beginning to end. Link's reaction at the end of it was classic. Those 14 minutes were almost worth the price of admission alone. Jackie Chan should be proud of Morpheus' moves on top of the 18-wheeler. The Bullet-time shot of the explosion from the 18-wheelers playing "Chicken" was top-notch, and a fine way to up the ante on shots like that.

The Neo-Smiths fight in the school playground was probably over the top and a little long, but it was fun.

So, how many times do you think Keanu purposefully messed up his kissing scene with Monica Belluci?

It's interesting to see that Neo now has real tangible powers outside the Matrix. Though he may have been the 6th or 7th in a line of "The One"s, Mr. Anderson is proving to be a bit more of an anomaly than the Matrix expected.

Cannot wait to hear how the DVD for this film is going to sound in the HT because there is some serious bass to be had in this film.

Based on Zion being destroyed several times, who says Neo doesn't have powers outside of the Matrix? How deep does the rabbit hole go? How many levels are there? Who says he's out I can see how Scott spent 100 minutes talking about it

As you can see, I did not go to sleep. I'll try again soon, but the film is all over my thoughts, so I am hoping to dump some of them on you.

I felt the Burly Brawl was FAR overlong. I enjoyed it to a point, but it stopped the story for too long. I loved the other fight scenes (especially the Chateau).

But that's for the review.

Like many good films, it works once you buy into it. I've always intellectually enjoyed The Matrix, and this film just furthered that.

So, I am glad to be seeing it again, because I want to listen VERY carefully to his chat with the Architect. Lots of clues there. Perhaps not all true.

I agree with Pat re: the flying scenes. They were magical in the way only the best moments in film are. Loved them.

Can't wait to see some Mobile Suit action in Revolutions. May be just a little...but I'll take just a little.

More to come. It's still percolating.

Take care,
Chuck

It was the best it could possibly be.

Everyone to my surprise was quiet during the movie, very rare with my past 1st public screenings.

I wasn't paying 100% attention so a few things blurred by.

Waited in line much longer than the movies running time...

Mocked some guys that showed up in Agent suits.
One guy dressed was alittle on the plus side so I named him Agent Overload.

A fun nite out, now we wait again.

jr

Cool. Better than The Matrix. Much better than X2. Visually and Aurally spectacular.

Tired now. More later.

Did I mention how cool it was?:b