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Originally Posted by Robert Crawford
Let me break in here for a minute, but I doubt Mr. Harris will share that information with you for obvious reasons like a flood of unwanted emails to that individual.





Crawdaddy

Thank you for posting Mr. Crawford! My questions are in the interest of understanding and reaching a positive outcome. I can't speak for Mr. Harris nor expect him to reveal contact information. Respectfully my intention is which direction can be taken on rescuing the film and supporting the cause today. What is the actual state of the film elements now? I hope that if potential costs would be recovered in the example Mr. Harris suggested this can change the direction IAMMMMW is going and allow all the material to be saved.
post #242 of 537

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Robert, has all the footage necessary for a restoration been located yet? Is the (discovered) scene of Edie Adams spinning around and round from the Roadshow or was that something they never used?
post #243 of 537

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Let me break in here for a minute, but I doubt Mr. Harris will share that information with you for obvious reasons like a flood of unwanted emails to that individual.
Wouldn't that be a good thing? Bringing it to the attention of the powers that be so that it's no longer flying under the radar?
post #244 of 537

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Originally Posted by george kaplan
Let me break in here for a minute, but I doubt Mr. Harris will share that information with you for obvious reasons like a flood of unwanted emails to that individual.
Wouldn't that be a good thing? Bringing it to the attention of the powers that be so that it's no longer flying under the radar?
If you want to bring it to the attention of the powers that be then use the tools of the internet to identify the necessary home video people and write personal letters to them. Don't publicly ask RAH to supply a name which places him in an awkward position. Also, the old fashion way of writing letters is still the most effective way of getting attention because anybody can write an email while a letter campaign conveys effort and passion to the receiver of such.




Crawdaddy
post #245 of 537

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Please don't misunderstand me. I wasn't suggesting that Robert do anything untoward. But if anyone knows some that can be contacted that would actually do some good (and I have no faith in my ability to magically do an internet search that would give me such a name), as opposed to some marketing person who doesn't care and couldn't do anything about it if they did, then that would be at least worth a shot.

A restored Mad World Roadshow is my #1 holy grail of all possible dvds (higher than the gas chamber scene cut from Double Indemnity, higher than deleted pizza parlor assassination in the Godfather, higher than the pie fight from Dr. Strangelove) and it just breaks my heart that there's nothing that can be done.
post #246 of 537

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Originally Posted by george kaplan
A restored Mad World Roadshow is my #1 holy grail of all possible dvds

I just wanted to be "officially" on record as saying, "Same here."
post #247 of 537

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found these posts from about 2 years ago now


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Originally Posted by Vincent_P
What's absolutely amazing- and incredibly disheartening- is that Hollywood executives are willing to THROW OUT an entire $35-million budgeted film and refilm it with a new director (i.e., EXORCIST: THE BEGINNING)- or even the SAME director i.e. CURSED- at great cost only to find out when they release the resultant POS that they should've simply released the first version, yet they won't spend a couple million at most to restore one of their catalogue classics.

This is just downright absurd. There needs to be established a "classic film restoration" fund or something. If some of these billionaire Hollywood directors i.e. Spielberg are truly in love with cinema, you'd think they'd be willing to donate to such a fund, no?

Vincent

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Originally Posted by TonyD
doesnt scorsese already have one of those foundations.

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Originally Posted by TonyD
i think amc used to have a film preservaton weekend that was sponsored i some way by scorsese.

i cant find anything on this at amctv.com.
but have wondered for as long as we have been discussing this, why martin scrosese hasnt been brought into this.

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Originally Posted by TonyD
i found this at amctv.com
http://www.amctv.com/article?CID=1049-1--0-3-EST



Our culture, literally, is going up in smoke. Less than half of the twenty-one thousand films made before 1950 still exist, because their nitratefilm stock, over time, turns to acid and burns the images away. Even more recent films are at risk; movies shot in Eastmancolor from the 1950s through the mid-70s, for example, lose their color over time, fading toa pale pink (more evidence for Joe McCarthy of a Hollywood Communist conspiracy).

AMC is proud to join The Film Foundation and its founders ? Martin Scorsese, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, Woody Allen, Francis Ford Coppola, and others ? in an effort to save these decaying films and thereby save the twentieth century's most important means of cultural expression.

Film preservation is a recent idea. As early as twenty years ago, the only people preserving films were underfunded archives. The big studios simply saw film libraries as an unnecessary storage expense that they were unwilling to indulge in. Often, films would be copied onto video tape and the negative destroyed. This haphazard "preservation," however, didn't take into account the low quality of videotape compared to the high-definition digital technology available today. And who knows what technology awaits in the future? In addition, some of the video transfers that were made were of edited cuts of the films. Often the films were not letterboxed before the transfer to video, which caused them to lose the wide aspect ratio of big-screen cinemascope movies, thereby sullying the integrity of the film picture.



Film preservation is now recognized as an important cultural endeavor, and some of the studios have built preservation facilities and improved the preservation policies of their libraries. But funds have been shrinking. Adjusted for inflation, government funding of the effort is less than half of what it was in 1980. A black and white film costs from $10,000 to $50,000 to preserve; a color film from $30,000 to $300,000. AMC's efforts to raise money through our annual Film Preservation Festival are now more important than ever in helping archives preserve not only Silent and Golden Era films, but irreplaceable historical documents like newsreels as well.

In the past, AMC has raised over $1.5 million to support the Foundation's six member archives. We've helped raised the money to restore and preserve films like Stagecoach (1939), My Darling Clementine (1946), and All Quiet on the Western Front (1930).

another article.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...eservation.htm

i think i found the link to the main site for Film Foundation.
http://www.film-foundation.org/default.cfm

mybe they dont even know the problem with mad world.

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Originally Posted by Robert Harris
Mr. Spielberg is a major benefactor in a number of areas. It is not his responsibility to fund the restoration of films, the copyrights (and asset trails of which) are owned by huge corporations.

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Originally Posted by TonyD
i wasnt suggesting the mr spielberg has a responsibilty to this or anyone else, just that he is a member of a film restoration group, and maybe this film needs a group like that to get restored.

no one else is gonna do it.
post #248 of 537

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I've never stopped writing letters and would encourage anyone else that has not to do the same. Again I'm very interested in keeping the positive discussion going here. I hope someone at MGM or Fox looks through the Threads and reads this one on the HTF and recognizes our interest in IAMMMMW being restored.
post #249 of 537

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Originally Posted by David Olstein
Well now I'm thoroughly depressed.

I've written e-mails to both the Film Foundation and Roger Ebert regarding this, and hopefully I'll hear back from one of them.

It seems pretty clear that we need a white knight to come forward to spearhead the preservation efforts with respect to one or both of these films. Apparently Robert Harris, despite the enormous respect he commands among film buffs, does not have enough clout to prod the studios into taking immediate action to save these films. Perhaps there's a high profile director or actor out there who fell in love with one of these films as a child.


David Olstein,

I realize you posted the comment 3 years ago, but did Roger Ebert ever respond to your letter?
post #250 of 537

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I don't see why everyone thinks a Mad World restoration would be viewed as unviable in the studio's eyes. After all, they spent a lot of money in the 1991 restoration. They know that a lot of time has passed and that a lot of footage has been uncovered and that a better restoration is possible. They know that the film is still commercially viable as well. It's sold and sold on vhs and dvd, and has been revived from time to time. It plays endlessly on television. It's far from a forgotten film. It's not a product that the studio has no faith in--it still makes money.
post #251 of 537

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MGM's website states the DVD is currently unavailable.
post #252 of 537

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Has MAD WORLD ever made one of those silly AFI greatest film lists? It should have on the greatest comedies, but I wonder if that would put some commercial pressure on UA to restore it. Maybe the AFI could co-fund a restoration.
post #253 of 537

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It placed No. 40 on the list of Greatest Comedies:

http://www.filmsite.org/afi100laughs2.html

It should have been higher, in my opinion, but at least it was there. What has really aggravated me for decades now is the lowly ** 1/2 it gets in Leonard Maltin's book of movie ratings. I think the NY Times critic got it right, including it on his Ten Best of 1963 list.
post #254 of 537

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Has AFI ever helped fund a restoration before?
post #255 of 537

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Originally Posted by Paul_Nyman
Has AFI ever helped fund a restoration before?
This link details AFI's efforts in film preservation and restoration.
post #256 of 537

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AICN has rumors of a Mad sequel. Can any of this be true?
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31195

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Are these people MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD? A sequel?!?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a bizarre trade story. Ed Bass, a producer of BOBBY, apparently really loves the ensemble cast style.

He's teamed with Stanley Kramer's (director of the original film) widow to make a sequel, which he began planning with Kramer himself starting in the early '90s. Kramer got ill and passed and the project went with him... until now.

The flick is about the descendants of the original team who are thrust into another big crazy chase when they find out that the money found in the original was counterfeit.

The plan is to stick to the formula of the first movie and mix dramatic actors and comic actors. It will be independently financed and no director is attached yet. They also want surviving cast members to cameo. George Barris is once again designing the automobiles for the flick.

Well, at least it's not a remake and the revelation that Kramer himself had input on the story and was optimistic about it might take this out of the "what the hell are they thinking" category.
post #257 of 537

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After reading this, if it turns out to be true it may be the impetus needed to fund a restoration. It would certainly warrant a DVD reissue.
post #258 of 537

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I have no interest in it, because it won't be filmed in the same style and they'll likely fill it up with crude humor, as is the norm today.

However, I hope it's such a huge success than it results in a worldwide clamor for the original -- which results in it, at long last, being fully restored!
post #259 of 537

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This has all the dreaded elements of being something really, REALLY horrible, given today's anything-goes comedy climate. Neither can I see it being a perfectly structured script like the original. I would restrict the cameos from the original to only one: Stan Freberg in the background, saying nothing. It'd be the wittiest part of the film, and the only one it deserves.

post #260 of 537

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I guess the title was right all along.
post #261 of 537

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Since this is Ain't It Cool News, how can we tell if this is legit, or just some misinformation passed from some netrat?
post #262 of 537

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Originally Posted by RolandL
There was a 70mm Ultra Panavision print of the film shown at the Cinerama Dome a few years ago. It was not the complete roadshow version but it did have the intermission police calls.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies...inerama04.html

good article...
post #263 of 537

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Originally Posted by widescreenforever

The article states the movie was filmed quickly in the summer of 1963 to make it in time for a November opening.

Every other book or article I've ever read said the movie started filming in the summer of 1962, and took several months to film.

The article also says the restored print was 197 minutes, 13 minutes shy of the original. All my sources say the movie opened at 195 minutes. I think the other 15 minutes are those "bulletins" (audio only) that played during the 15-minute intermission.
post #264 of 537

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
The article states the movie was filmed quickly in the summer of 1963 to make it in time for a November opening.

Every other book or article I've ever read said the movie started filming in the summer of 1962, and took several months to film.

The article also says the restored print was 197 minutes, 13 minutes shy of the original. All my sources say the movie opened at 195 minutes. I think the other 15 minutes are those "bulletins" (audio only) that played during the 15-minute intermission.

The article also says 42 months of total completion from start to finish, I believe he meant to say the summer of 63 was used to rush the final editing to completion for a November release.. which was too bad really, because of the assassination of Kennedy, the whole premiere fizzled and the film never really had a grand opening and following..
post #265 of 537

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Actually, it's difficult to say if the assassination had a positive or negative effect on MAD WORLD -- it probably had no effect at all. The New York premiere was Sunday, November 17, just five days before the assassination. Maybe people wanted to see a comedy more than ever.

Throughout the winter of 63-64, the big hits were comedies like "Mad World," "Tom Jones" and "Dr. Strangelove." I was around then, and I don't remember a single person relating their movie choices to the assassination. Life just went on.
post #266 of 537

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
I have no interest in it, because it won't be filmed in the same style and they'll likely fill it up with crude humor, as is the norm today.

However, I hope it's such a huge success than it results in a worldwide clamor for the original -- which results in it, at long last, being fully restored!

Agree completely. Unfortunately, a lot of recent remakes and revisons of earlier classic movies have generated very little or no interest at all in the original film versions. For example, I'm still waiting on a DVD release of the original 70's horror-flick "WILLARD" even though the ill-fated remake a couple of years ago looked like it might help make ths happen. But nope - nothing.

I don't think younger modern audiences even know that most of these revisions are actually remakes of earlier films. They think they are all new ideas and concepts and only go to see them when they think the tv-spots are cool or it just looks like the best thing to see on a Saturday night.

I was going to go on about how fruitless it is to hope for a MAD MAD WORLD restoration, but I also want to see this eventually happen so I will shut up and hope along with all of you - against all the odds - that something may eventually happen.
post #267 of 537

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Again: I have to point out that such a restoration is not hopeless. The film is still popular and still makes money. The studios have recently spent more money on restoring crappier movies than this one. Some of you act like Mad Mad World is some obscure arthouse flick, and not a valuable part of MGM's library. Or Sony, or Warner's, or whoever owns it now. Columbia?
post #268 of 537

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff
The article states the movie was filmed quickly in the summer of 1963 to make it in time for a November opening.

Every other book or article I've ever read said the movie started filming in the summer of 1962, and took several months to film.

The article also says the restored print was 197 minutes, 13 minutes shy of the original. All my sources say the movie opened at 195 minutes. I think the other 15 minutes are those "bulletins" (audio only) that played during the 15-minute intermission.

From the August 25, 1962 issue of The Independent Film Journal - http://cinerama.topcities.com/ifj082562.htm

review (197 minutes plus intermission) - http://cinerama.topcities.com/1963iammmmwreview.jpg

More articles on Mad World - http://cinerama.topcities.com/1963_november.htm
http://cinerama.topcities.com/1963_december.htm
post #269 of 537

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Originally Posted by Dave Berthiaume
AICN has rumors of a Mad sequel. Can any of this be true?
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31195


Maybe not a Silver Lining, but at least there's one way of kick starting a discussion here.
post #270 of 537

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Originally Posted by Paul_Nyman
Maybe not a Silver Lining, but at least there's one way of kick starting a discussion here.

OMG... I hope not..

Let's just keep to the discussion of IAMMMMW and the restoration problems..

I do not want to see any lame ass ideas of a sequel.. It could never be done.
..and should never be attempted to succeed an original American Classic such as Stanley Kramers's brilliant direction, Well known stars showing us their desire of greed, comedy, and car chases.
Early Southern Californian scene locations, cameos, oscar winning music score and William Roses's wonderful witty script made this one of my top ten favourite films of all time.
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