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post #121 of 174
2/28/03 at 5:09am
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post #122 of 174
2/28/03 at 8:12pm
Updated my list after seeing Road to Perdition.
Great movie, but it didn't crack my Top 10 (I have it as 14th best).
So not a major update by any means actually...
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post #123 of 174
3/1/03 at 6:50pm
I've changed my list a bit. I saw The Pianist a second time and it moved up to my #2 of the year. It isn't that I think Punch-Drunk Love is "better" than The Pianist, but PDL touched the quirky romantic in me, and my love for it is shared in every way by my beloved husband, and that keeps it at #1.

I also saw City of God and was blown away. I put it at #5.

Far From Heaven (which I also saw a second time and was even more impressed by) was moved to the second tier.

To make room for FFF, I knocked Bowling For Colombine out of the next 10. It joins a large list of great movies I loved that couldn't fit onto either list.

Here's my list again, updated. It's very fluid, because I don't *really* like Frailty more than The Two Towers, or Sunshine State less than Adaptation. This is why I hate absolute lists. They change depending on what I'm watching or thinking about at the moment.

1. Punch-Drunk Love
2. The Pianist
3. Adaptation
4. Rabbit-Proof Fence
5. City of God
6. Frailty
7. Real Women Have Curves
8. Sunshine State
9. Chicago
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

Next 10 (in no particular order)


Far From Heaven
The Hours
Catch Me If You Can
25th Hour
Frida
Gangs of New York
The Good Girl
The Man From Elysian Fields
Minority Report
Solaris
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post #124 of 174
3/1/03 at 7:41pm
Just added The Pianist, and bumped The Salton Sea.
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post #125 of 174
3/3/03 at 8:15am
Updated with RtP:

1) Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
2) Equilibrium
T3) Minority Report
T3) Catch Me If You Can
5) Gangs of New York
6) Chicago
7) The Bourne Identity
8) Y Tu Mama Tambien
9) Road to Perdition
10) Frailty

Take care,
Chuck
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post #126 of 174
3/3/03 at 11:18am
Updated my top 10 list with Igby Goes Down at #9 moving Y Tu Mama Tambien down a spot and Adaptation. gets bumped again.

Lowell
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post #127 of 174
3/3/03 at 11:23am
Updated list:

1. Y Tu Mama Tambien
2. 13 Conversations About One Thing
3. Igby Goes Down
4. Late Marriage
5. The Quiet American
6. The Man From Elysian Fields
7. Chicago
8. The Pianist
9. He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not
10. The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys

List revised to include "The Quiet American". Some reshuffling of rankings, and "25th Hour" drops out.
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post #128 of 174
3/3/03 at 1:20pm
Updated: Added 13 Conversations about one thing (#9), kicked Adaptation out of the top 10. It was at #9, logic dictates that it should now be 10, but there is no way Frailty is leaving that list

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Holadem
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post #129 of 174
3/5/03 at 9:00am
I figured I should probably get around to etching the final version of my list, so consider it done. Talk To Her bumps Bowling For Columbine out of the Top 10 and into the Honorable Mentions. Frida and The Hours fall out of the HMs for BFC and The Quiet American.
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post #130 of 174
3/6/03 at 12:20am
---> One change over the last 2 months: Nicholas Nickleby loses the #10 spot to some Asian cartoon.

1. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
2. Minority Report
3. Frailty
4. Bowling for Columbine
5. Chicago
6. Adaptation
7. 25th Hour
8. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
9. The Good Girl
10. Spirited Away
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post #131 of 174
3/6/03 at 7:09am
Latest & Greatest...
The Top 30 of Our Top 10 of 2002
Contributing, Qualifying Members: 82
Includes all member updates through 6 Mar 2003 9 AM
# Title Total Score Fractional Weighted Total Top 10 List Appearances :
2002 Film List Appearances		 Weighted Average Unweighted Average
01 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 400 44.88 56 : 65 7.14 4.88
02 Minority Report 287 34.78 46 : 60 6.24 3.50
03 Punch-Drunk Love 265 32.18 39 : 51 6.79 3.23
04 Adaptation. 221 27.68 35 : 43 6.31 2.70
05 Gangs of New York 207.5 25.43 37 : 55 5.61 2.53
06 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (Spirited Away) 197 25.08 29 : 35 6.79 2.40
07 Chicago 188 22.75 29 : 38 6.48 2.29
08 Bowling for Columbine 161 19.25 23 : 38 7.00 1.96
09 The Pianist 137 17.28 21 : 29 6.52 1.67
10 Road to Perdition 125 17.05 24 : 49 5.21 1.52
11 Y Tu Mamá También (And Your Mother Too) 119 15.74 21 : 42 5.67 1.45
12 Signs 116 13.89 22 : 51 5.27 1.41
13 Far from Heaven 98 11.18 16 : 33 6.13 1.20
14 About Schmidt 96.5 12.10 19 : 38 5.08 1.18
15 Catch Me If You Can 92 13.70 18 : 41 5.11 1.12
16 The Hours 88 12.21 16 : 27 5.50 1.07
17 25th Hour 87 13.00 17 : 29 5.12 1.06
18 Solaris 85 11.94 15 : 33 5.67 1.04
19 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones 83 9.54 14 : 47 5.93 1.01
20 Hable con Ella (Talk to Her) 66 10.52 12 : 18 5.50 0.80
21 Insomnia 66 8.91 13 : 44 5.08 0.80
22 Frailty 65 9.52 15 : 42 4.33 0.79
23 Metropolis 56 8.26 09 : 27 6.22 0.68
24 Thirteen Conversations About One Thing 42 7.40 09 : 30 4.67 0.51
25 Changing Lanes 37 5.60 07 : 36 5.29 0.45
26 The Ring 37 4.71 08 : 35 4.63 0.45
27 About a Boy 37 6.92 11 : 33 3.36 0.45
28 Igby Goes Down 36 5.35 07 : 24 5.14 0.44
29 Panic Room 34 3.84 07 : 44 4.86 0.41
30 Spider-Man 34 5.47 10 : 46 3.40 0.41
Columns:
  1. Position
  2. Film Title
  3. Total Score: A summation of each film's position in each contributor's top 10, with points given as follows: 1st place = 10, 10th place = 1. 10th place ties get .5 points per tie, limit to 2. All ties above 10th place get full points in each position, so long as the total points for the contributor does not exceed 55 (10+9+...+1); if that happens, remainder of tie will be divided like they were 10th place.
  4. Fractional Weighted Total: The total combined fractional weighted scores of each contributor's film. Fractional weighted scores are computed for each contributor by the position of the film against the total number of films seen -- i.e., if a contributor saw 50 films, 1st place is 50/50 (1.00), 10th place is 41/50 (0.82). This gives more weight to lists with higher film totals.
  5. Top 10 List Appearances : 2002 Film List Appearances: Ratio of a film's appearance in this thread to how many appearances it makes in contributors' lists in the 2002 Film List thread. This gives better value to the Weighted Average (and Total Score) numbers.
  6. Weighted Average: Total Score divided by Top 10 List Appearances. This is considered weighted because it only takes into account those contributors who have the film in the top 10.
  7. Unweighted Average: Total Score divided by total number of Top 10 contributors (currently 82).
Contributing members (if your name is not on here, and you are sure your list is complete, email me. Grey numbers beside names denotes less than 35 -- if you have only those listed here in the Top 10 list, then you didn't post a list in the 2002 Film List):
(30/30 : 232) Jason Whyte
(27/30 : 172) Stephen R
(30/30 : 302) Bill Harris
(15/30 : 058) Matthew Chmiel
(28/30 : 134) Kevin Leonard
(30/30 : 119) Edwin Pereyra
(20/30 : 052) Matt Stone
(24/30 : 082) John Thomas
(06/30 : 010) Justin_S
(14/30 : 038) Travis_S
(08/30 : 011) Adam_S
(08/30 : 010) Doug R
(18/30 : 077) Derek Miner
(25/30 : 075) Jehan
(24/30 : 048) Rob Willey
(13/30 : 134) JohnS
(04/30 : 010) Doug D
(30/30 : 278) Michael Perez
(26/30 : 256) Scott Weinberg
(07/30 : 010) Dean DeMass
(26/30 : 086) Craig S
 (20/30 : 069) John Spencer
(28/30 : 104) Kristian
(27/30 : 111) Chris_Richard
(18/30 : 065) ChuckDeLa
(18/30 : 138) Ruth_F
(06/30 : 010) Joel Turpin
(04/30 : 010) L. Anton Dencklau
(08/30 : 010) Dustin Woods
(07/30 : 010) AaronJB
(22/30 : 093) Nick Sievers
(07/30 : 010) Steve Lockwood
(27/30 : 196) Jason Seaver
(00/30 : 010) Brian Lawrence
(26/30 : 075) NickNC
(09/30 : 010) Larry Sutliff
(15/30 : 043) Bill J
(04/30 : 010) Rob P S
(30/30 : 133) Kirk Tsai
(07/30 : 010) Dome Vongvises
(08/30 : 010) Kami
(24/30 : 058) Lowell_B
 (05/30 : 010) Damin J Toell
(09/30 : 010) Paul Case
(15/30 : 054) Scott_MacD
(16/30 : 063) Joshua_Y
(25/30 : 065) Dana Fillhart
(04/30 : 010) Malcom R
(08/30 : 010) JonZ
(08/30 : 010) PatrickL
(27/30 : 216) Mark Pfeiffer
(13/30 : 057) Andrew Schwarz
(09/30 : 010) JonBoriss
(08/30 : 010) MikeRS
(09/30 : 010) Steven Lay
(09/30 : 010) Pat Ford
(09/30 : 010) Fred Bang
(14/30 : 035) Chuck Mayer
(04/30 : 010) Martin Fontaine
(10/30 : 010) Paul-Gunther
(10/30 : 010) Kevin Clemons
(06/30 : 010) Elizabeth S
(28/30 : 065) Arman
 (03/30 : 010) JonathanG
(07/30 : 010) Marc_Savoie
(10/30 : 010) Barry Woodward
(09/30 : 010) LawrenceK
(08/30 : 010) Chris Harvey
(19/30 : 139) Mark Palermo
(08/30 : 010) Michael Costa
(05/30 : 010) steve jaros
(28/30 : 096) Seth Paxton
(26/30 : 103) Eric Howell
(06/30 : 011) Quentin
(22/30 : 050) Brook K
(07/30 : 010) Vickie_M
(08/30 : 010) Winston Smith
(08/30 : 010) Holadem
(09/30 : 010) RafaelB
(10/30 : 010) Dennis Pagoulatos
(08/30 : 010) Brian Ruth
(07/30 : 010) Rich Malloy
Non-qualifying members:
  • Declan, LennyP - List can only contain 2002 FILMS (there were a few other people with one or two platform-pushover titles, which I've let go for the time being)
  • Angelo.M - Must have 10 titles in the list, and at least 35 seen from 2002
  • Luc D - You'll need an order to your list)
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post #132 of 174
3/6/03 at 10:13pm
Thread Starter 
Okay everyone,

See? Told you I didn't forget about you guys. With a few weeks to go to the Oscars, I've cleaned up this thread, temprorarily stuck it, and opened up the thread to you guys!

So if you're unclear about the first post, let me know. Basically, go into your posts and under your lists, place your Top 5 choices for each category by preference.

Which, of course, means that all of those who have posted a Top 10 list are eligible.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact myself or Dana.

Jason
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post #133 of 174
3/7/03 at 9:53am
Jason,

Why not a "Best Documentary" category?

Michael
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post #134 of 174
3/7/03 at 10:21am
Thread Starter 
Michael,

I'm really not sure if a Documentary category would be ideal, because a majority of the film lists here do not even mention them, nor have many documentaries even been readily available (besides "Bowling For Columbine", of course).

If you guys feel it should be added, let me know.
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post #135 of 174
3/7/03 at 10:41am
I really, really, want to see if Standing In The Shadows Of Motown can upset the second-most overrated movie of the year.
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post #136 of 174
3/7/03 at 11:30am
Shadows of Motown!
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post #137 of 174
3/7/03 at 2:31pm
My original post was accidently deleted! No worries though, here's the goods all over again... I'm gradually adding the awards stuff att the very bottom:

My Top 10 of 2002
01. Punch-Drunk Love
02. Adaptation
03. Solaris
04. Bowling for Columbine
05. Femme Fatale
06. Gangs of New York
07. The Rules of Attraction
08. CQ
09. The Hours
10. Auto Focus

10 Runners-up:
11. Y Tú Mamá También
12. About Schmidt
13. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
14. Minority Report
15. Roger Dodger
16. 24 Hour Party People
17. The Good Girl
18. Road to Perdition
19. 8 Mile
20. 13 Conversations About One Thing

Would still recommend:
- Storytelling
- The Ring
- One Hour Photo
- About a Boy
- Panic Room
- Spider-Man
- Chicago
- Catch Me If You Can
- Changing Lanes
- ZigZag
- Unfaithful
- The Salton Sea
- Insomnia

Best guilty pleasure:
(TBA)

Biggest disappointments:
- Signs
- Dogtown & Z-Boys
- Austin Powers in Goldmember

Worst film I saw in 2002:
- The Transporter
(it was playing on an airplance I was travelling on, so figured I might as well kill some time and watch it. Horrible.)

Films I still need to see, or sadly missed... and want to see:
in alphabetical order
Atanarjuat (The Fast Runner)
Antwone Fisher
Ararat
Barbershop
Biggie & Tupac
Blue Crush
The Bourne Identity
Brown Sugar
The Cat’s Meow
Comedian
The Dangerous Lives of Alter Boys
Death to Smoochy
Diamond Men
El Crimen Del Padre Amaro
Equilibrium
Far From Heaven
Frailty
Frida
Full Frontal
Habla con Ella (Talk to Her)
Harvard Man
Heaven
Hell House
Hollywood Ending
Human Nature
Igby Goes Down
Jim Brown: All American
The Kid Stays in the Picture
Kissing Jessica Stein
The Laramie Project
Lilo & Stitch
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Love Liza
Lovely & Amazing
Metropolis
Moonlight Mile
Narc
Nicolas Nickleby
Nine Queens
No Such Thing
Orange County
Personal Velocity
The Pianist
Possession
Pumpkin
The Quiet American
Rabbit-Proof Fence
Red Dragon
Riri Shushu no subete (All About Lily Chou Chou)
Sånger från andra våningen (Songs From The Second Floor)
Secretary
Scotland, PA
Scratch
S1m0ne
Spider
Spirited Away (Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi)
Standing in the Shadows of Motown
Sunshine State
Tadpole
25th Hour
Undercover Brother
Welcome to Collinwood
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HTF Award Nominations

Best Director:
01. Paul Thomas Anderson [Punch-Drunk Love]
02. Spike Jonze [Adaptation]
03. Steven Soderberg [Solaris]
04. Martin Scorsese [Gangs of New York]
05. Stephen Daldry [The Hours]

Best Actor:
01. Daniel Day Lewis [Gangs of New York]
02. Nicolas Cage [Adaptation]
03. Adam Sandler [Punch-Drunk Love]
04. Sam Rockwell [Confessions of a Dangerous Mind]
05. Greg Kinnear [Auto Focus]

Best Actress
01. Meryl Streep [The Hours]
02. Julianne Moore [The Hours]
03. Jennifer Aniston [The Good Girl]
04. Diane Lane [Unfaithful]
05. Catherine Zeta Jones [Chicago]

Best Supporting Actor
01. Chris Cooper [Adaptation]
02. Willem Dafoe [Auto Focus]
03. Ed Harris [The Hours]
04. John C. Reilly [The Good Girl]
05. Jude Law [Road to Perdition]

Best Supporting Actress
01. Meryl Streep [Adaptation]
02. Natascha McElhone [Solaris]
03. Emily Watson [Punch-Drunk Love]
04. Ana López Mercado [Y Tu Mama Tambien]
05. Kathy Bates [About Schmidt]

Best Breakthrough Performance
01. Sam Rockwell [Confessions of a Dangerous Mind]
02. Tyler Hoechlin [Road to Perdition]
03. Sam Jones III [ZigZag]

Best Animated Feature
n/a

Best Art Direction
01. Gangs of New York
02. Solaris
03. The Hours
04. Road to Perdition
05. Minority Report

Best Costume Design
01. Gangs of New York
02. CQ
03. Auto Focus
04. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
05. Road to Perdition

Best Cinematography
01. Solaris
02. The Hours
03. Punch-Drunk Love
04. Unfaithful
05. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

Best Editing
01. Adpatation
02. The Hours
03. Punch-Drunk Love
04. Auto Focus
05. The Rules of Attraction

Best Foreign Language Film
01. Y Tú Mamá También

Best Makeup
n/a

Best Music Score
01. Jon Brion [Punch-Drunk Love]
02. Cliff Martinex [Solaris]
03. Philip Glass [The Hours]
04. Carter Burwell [Adaptation]
05. Roger Neill [CQ]

Best Screenplay, Original
01. Punch-Drunk Love
02. Y Tu Mama Tambien
03. Gangs of New York (is this truly the right category for it?)
04. The Good Girl
05. 13 Conversations About One Thing

Best Screenplay, Adapted
01. Adaptation (again, is this truly the right category for it?)
02. The Hours
03. Solaris
04. Auto Focus
05. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind

Best Song
n/a

Best Sound
01. Solaris
02. Minority Report

Best Sound Effects Editing (3)
01. Minority Report

Best Visual Effects
01. Minority Report
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post #138 of 174
3/7/03 at 2:48pm
For these categories, is it based on a performance in one film or all of their performances of the year? In other words, if I liked multiple supporting performances by say John C Riley(Chicago, GoNY, Good Girl, and Hours), would I put him on my list once or multiple times?
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post #139 of 174
3/7/03 at 3:10pm
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post #140 of 174
3/7/03 at 10:36pm
Quote:
I'm really not sure if a Documentary category would be ideal, because a majority of the film lists here do not even mention them, nor have many documentaries even been readily available (besides "Bowling For Columbine", of course).

If you guys feel it should be added, let me know.
You're right... most of the lists here have "at most" 5 documentaries included anyway, so coming up with the best 5 would be trivial and contribute little. I, myself, watched only around 8-10 documentaries in 2002, but I'll probably include my 5 favorite in my post.
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post #141 of 174
3/7/03 at 11:09pm
Thread Starter 
And, also, it would really be a battle between Bowling For Columbine and Standing In The Shadows of Motown, as Jason and Rich have made abundantly clear.

Aside: while I have YET to update my Top 10 list (can ya tell I've been busy?), Motown comes in at #6 behind Solaris, and would be my choice for this year's documentary.

Jason
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post #142 of 174
3/8/03 at 3:28pm
Ok, just updated my post with my HTF Film Awards nominees. I also included a Best Doc category, just for the heck of it.

So... is "The Russian Ark" eligible for Best Editing?
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post #143 of 174
3/8/03 at 4:42pm
Alright...I guess I'll throw in...hope I haven't already posted here and forgotten about it

1. The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
2. Minority Report
3. Adaptation
4. About Schmidt
5. Road To Perdition
6. The Pianist
7. Catch Me If You Can
8. Bowling For Columbine
9. Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
10. Undercover Brother
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post #144 of 174
3/9/03 at 10:03am
Can I still edit my list? I haven't been doing so because I thought we were only allowed to place films we actually saw in the year 2002. I'm getting ready to watch Chicago in an hour. So if I like it and want to put it in my list, I can? Or do I actually have to see it in the year 2002?
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post #145 of 174
3/9/03 at 10:20am
Dome, as far as I know you can edit your list whenever and wherever. It doesn't matter WHEN you see a movie, as long as it's a 2002 title. Hope you enjoy Chicago, it's a solid piece of work.

Lowell
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post #146 of 174
3/9/03 at 5:37pm
I'm updating my list. It's on page 2 for the folks running this.
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post #147 of 174
3/9/03 at 9:13pm
Top Ten of 2002

1.) The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

2.) Spider-Man

3.) Equilibrium - Extremeley Underrated

4.) Minority Report

5.) The Antwone Fisher Story

6.) Drumline

7.) Monsoon Wedding

8.) Lilo & Stitch

9.) Bowling For Columbine

10.) Undercover Brother


Worst Film of 2002

Hands down, Star Trek: Nemesis, the franchise is over.
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post #148 of 174
3/11/03 at 6:22pm
Top Ten:

1. The Pianist
2. 25th Hour
3. The Quiet American
4. The Hours
5. About Schmidt
6. Bowling For Columbine
7. Igby Goes Down
8. Adaptation
9. Frailty
10. Far From Heaven
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post #149 of 174
3/16/03 at 6:21pm
Updated with Standing In The Shadows Of Motown which slipped in at #10.
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post #150 of 174
3/18/03 at 10:35pm
A little late, but here's my Top 10 of 2002.

1. Hable Con Ella (Talk To Her)
2. Morvern Callar
3. The Pianist
4. Punch-Drunk Love
5. Adaptation
6. Irreversible
7. Hero
8. Russian Ark
9. Moonlight Mile
10. Gangs of New York
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