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Cory S.

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My 1080p set is only a year and a half old so of course the wife has nixed the idea of getting a 4K until that TV goes out. My only question to those in the know is that if I got a UHD Blu Ray player for my 1080p set, will I have to switch out the HDMI cables as well?

I am glad that it's been confirmed that UHD can and will work on a 1080p set.
 
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My local Best Buy finally had the discs out today. They were all sitting in a single row, and the most they had of any title was ten copies (The Martian), and most titles had five or less. Strangely, I've just realized that they did not have any Life of Pi, but they did have the other seven March 1st titles. I picked up all of them except Fantastic Four (2015) and Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials.

I believe at least part of the reason that the discs were on an "additional stock" shelf is due to the store not having any players yet. There was an associate in the Magnolia section who seemed genuinely interested in seeing the content, though, and he said that as soon as he got them in-store (he said the system just showed that the player was due at the end of the month), he'd see that one was put out for demonstraion, which he believed would be in the Magnolia section. Quite bizarrely, when he looked at each of my selections, he only knew of The Martian, though he may have noted that another one or two "were bad [quality movies]", concluding that the $27.99 price is reasonable, but only indicating a willingness to buy The Martian. I wonder what this says about the covers of titles (on any format), and whether these images really do help average consumers to spot the films they like, or pique their interest in others they don't know of.

So yes, now I own five Fox UHD titles, and no player or TV to watch them on. Happily, I can get rid of the three I owned on Blu-ray.
 

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My 1080p set is only a year and a half old so of course the wife has nixed the idea of getting a 4K until that TV goes out. My only question to those in the know is that if I got a UHD Blu Ray player for my 1080p set, will I have to switch out the HDMI cables as well?

I am glad that it's been confirmed that UHD can and will work on a 1080p set.

The UHD will work it will just send 1080p resolution to your 1080p HDTV and so your HDMI cable should be just fine. This how ever will not be the case if you upgrade to a new 4K UHD TV and you would need a new HDMI cable.
 

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I have bought all these titles so far there are 20-25 titles available now.

Sicario
The Last Witch Hunter
The Expendables 3
Salt
The Martian
Fantastic Four
Kingsman: The Secret Service
Hitman: Agent 47
Mad Max
San Andres
Enders Game

So far I have been very impressed with all the titles.
 

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There are 89 titles either released, pre-order or announced. I think that is pretty good vs. what I remember of blu-ray. We don't even have some studios with a release yet. I have 11 pre-orders on order right now.
 

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UHD growing four times as fast as Blu-Ray in 2006

http://variety.com/2016/digital/new...s-numbers-exceed-disc-predecessor-1201804322/

So, where are all the UHD movies? Currently only 15 UHD titles available for pre-order through the end of September.
The article is very misleading ignoring the facts of the 2006 market when, in fact, the Blu-ray format was lagging behind competitor HD DVD, which was dominating in titles released and sales overall. The adoption rate for HD media discs then would be somewhere around the same –proportionally– if we combined the sales numbers of both rival formats.

I seriously doubt UHD BD is gaining any significant consumer attention with streaming already in the minds of the mainstream. Besides the fact that the benefits of UHD BD are marginal against its predecesor unlike BD vs. DVD unless the conditions are met to take advantage of the technology's theoretical potential, like a large 80"+ screen with support for HDR and wider color gamut (the last two many times more important than adding pixel density per screen square inch).

And of course seated appropriately close enough to maximise the benefits for human perception with a source transfer that really exhausts the format's limitations. None of these conditions will be neither mainstream nor practical.
 

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I drew the line after 1080p, it's ideal even for large home projectors. But after replacing LDs for DVDs and then BDs, you know when enough is enough… at least there were compelling reasons to upgrade and replace large collections with a new format, a real impression with irrefutable difference. To me 4K is overrated, it failed to ignite any hype after seeing so many demos with underwhelming disappointment, even under ideal conditions that don't necessarily represent most home conditions. 4k is right for industrial applications where it is more than justified and needed, where distance and screen size demand it (like jumbotrons and theater venues). But, at home? nah, just another marketing ploy to generate B.S. (Buzz Sales, what were you thinking?)
 

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I believe there are many that would actually disagree with you myself being one of those. I personally feel there is a huge difference with the addition of HDR. However, I do have an 85" 4K TV with HDR10.

On the other front of the article I do agree with you that Blu-ray was in a war with a competing format. The totals probably should be added together. I do believe there are may 4K adopters that are buying the disks in large numbers worldwide based on other more 4K friendly places I participate in. I personally have 24 titles with 11 more on pre-order.
 

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I drew the line after 1080p, it's ideal even for large home projectors. But after replacing LDs for DVDs and then BDs, you know when enough is enough… at least there were compelling reasons to upgrade and replace large collections with a new format, a real impression with irrefutable difference. To me 4K is overrated, it failed to ignite any hype after seeing so many demos with underwhelming disappointment, even under ideal conditions that don't necessarily represent most home conditions. 4k is right for industrial applications where it is more than justified and needed, where distance and screen size demand it (like jumbotrons and theater venues). But, at home? nah, just another marketing ploy to generate B.S. (Buzz Sales, what were you thinking?)
Well for me anyway 4K is an easy choice because I am already in the market for a new TV. I don't know what the ratio of 4k to 1080 HD televisions on the market is, but I'm guessing it is at 60/40 in favor of 4K right now.
So there are a lot of options to choose from.
Dedicated 4k projectors at an affordable price....well that may take a while.
 

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I drew the line after 1080p, it's ideal even for large home projectors. But after replacing LDs for DVDs and then BDs, you know when enough is enough… at least there were compelling reasons to upgrade and replace large collections with a new format, a real impression with irrefutable difference. To me 4K is overrated, it failed to ignite any hype after seeing so many demos with underwhelming disappointment, even under ideal conditions that don't necessarily represent most home conditions. 4k is right for industrial applications where it is more than justified and needed, where distance and screen size demand it (like jumbotrons and theater venues). But, at home? nah, just another marketing ploy to generate B.S. (Buzz Sales, what were you thinking?)

Why would you have to replace your collection? Just add the new format for selected movies and players will be backwards compatible, too.
I am sceptical of all those demos that supposedly do not show much of a difference as indeed the HDR movies do look different, it is not that hard to see. If you like that look is only for you to say but they do look different and many say in a good way.
 

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I would be interested in UHD if there were any titles I wanted. I am disappointed that films which are remastered for 4K are only being released as a blu-ray. A missed opportunity to establish the format amongst those of us who prefer watching older films.
 

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I would be interested in UHD if there were any titles I wanted. I am disappointed that films which are remastered for 4K are only being released as a blu-ray. A missed opportunity to establish the format amongst those of us who prefer watching older films.
I'm still waiting for Star Trek II TWOK, The Fifth Element, Bram Stokers Dracula, Glory, and Spiderman to be announced. It does seem like a missed opportunity but maybe the studios are figuring on Holiday sales to be big for UHD, so they will release them closer to Christmas.
 

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I'm still waiting for Star Trek II TWOK, The Fifth Element, Bram Stokers Dracula, Glory, and Spiderman to be announced. It does seem like a missed opportunity but maybe the studios are figuring on Holiday sales to be big for UHD, so they will release them closer to Christmas.

I agree that (I hope) the holidays will be big. We don't even have release dates for some of the 89 titles announced. Pacific Rim, Star Trek II, The Town. I think we may see a large number drop in November, December and January. There are a lot of 4K streaming titles that could be moved to disc as well. However, I'm wondering on the older titles if they will just remain streaming only (i.e. Lawrence of Arabia).
 

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I agree that (I hope) the holidays will be big. We don't even have release dates for some of the 89 titles announced. Pacific Rim, Star Trek II, The Town. I think we may see a large number drop in November, December and January. There are a lot of 4K streaming titles that could be moved to disc as well. However, I'm wondering on the older titles if they will just remain streaming only (i.e. Lawrence of Arabia).

I think the older titles will only remain as streaming. Sales of older titles on disc are diminishing and even enthusiasts may not want to upgrade again. As we have said before blu-ray is the end of the line for packaged media for all but the most popular films.
 

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