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Good episode. They must have learned from "Orphan Black", because the scenes where Felicity interacted with herself were pretty flawless.


Something tells me that one death in particular is not going to stick.


It was nice seeing Lyla back in the field again. The character seemed unduly boxed in as a fully domesticated housewife, given her particular skill set.


Loved the scene at the end with Andy meeting his niece for the first time.
 

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Adam Lenhardt said:
Something tells me that one death in particular is not going to stick.
I forgot the big shock of the episode - Amanda Waller being written out of the show. That was a surprise. I think it will stick, but we may see her in flashbacks.


It was also nice to see Diggle flashbacks instead of Oliver, though there was that one scene which pointed back to the island.
 

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I also can't imagine that death scene resulted in the end of that character. Who was the shooter? Ex-military turned information thief? If it is the end of the character, what a great injustice to a great character.


I didn't feel anything when Andy met his niece. I still don't trust him; it seems like we're being set up for more betrayal from him before long.


I did like the stuff with Felicity, and the flashbacks to Afghanistan were well done.
 

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I also can't imagine that death scene resulted in the end of that character. Who was the shooter? Ex-military turned information thief? If it is the end of the character, what a great injustice to a great character.

My guess is that, much like Deadshot, their hand was forced by the looming blackout period for the character surrounding the Suicide Squad. They don't want confusion between the Arrowverse Amanda Waller and the big screen Viola Davis Amanda Waller.
 

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Yes, I also figured they did the same thing with her as they did with Deadshot. Seems like they don't want two versions of the characters going about at the same time in movies and on TV.

But there is an obvious inconsistency with that logic since they are going to have two versions of the Flash at the same time.
 

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Did everyone also watch Legends of Tomorrow ep 2 on Thursday?


Damien Darhk has a small guest role in the episode
 

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I had a strong feeling where things were headed once Tom Amandes showed up as a hacker, given that he played the antagonistic father of the love interest on Berlanti's "Everwood".

I really expected them to kill Katana off this episode, given that the characters appearing in Suicide Squad were killed off in their most recent appearances.
 

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Let's hope not, Adam. She's a great addition to the supporting cast. They should keep her in rotation as long as possible.

I liked last night's show, and the return of Roy. Thea's problems seem strange to me; Ras used the pit many times over the years and didn't show these kind of ill effects. Also, aren't there many Lazarus Pits in the world? I seem to remember that from somewhere.
 

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Thea's problems seem strange to me; Ras used the pit many times over the years and didn't show these kind of ill effects.

I'm just hypothesizing here, but maybe there are different effects for different people, based on psychology and how they're brought back? You would think Thea's symptoms would be known to someone as a Lazarus side effect...UNLESS no one actually lives long enough to get this far in their "resurrection."
 

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Ra's definitely experienced the bloodlust, but it wasn't a problem for him because he slaughtered people on the regular. It's only a problem for Thea because she doesn't want to kill anymore.
 

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Yep. At the end I said, "just when you think he can't be anymore evil..."
 

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Another episode with well-written intensity. Always a pleasure to see Nyssa, but when she said she disbanded the League, my first thought was "Can she do that?" It certainly changes the whole mythology of the DC universe.
 

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I didn't think Merlyn would just join the Hive's inner circle. I wonder how he is going to keep Speedy safe.

That tax audit finding an uncashed check? That just doesn't feel right to me. And also that photocopy of the "carbon copy" looked a lot better than I would have thought.
 

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Good episode; I liked that it ended on a positive note (the engagement party and the surprise for Felicity) rather than have a villain crash the party and create carnage.
 
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Good episode; I liked that it ended on a positive note (the engagement party and the surprise for Felicity) rather than have a villain crash the party and create carnage.

Me too, but when Oliver and Felicity separated themselves from Lance and her mom, I immediately thought something bad was about to happen. I'm glad it didn't.
 

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Tonight's episode could have been titled "A Few More Reason It Sucks to Be Oliver Queen". Much like the last few episodes of the first "Jessica Jones" season, I'm getting turned off by the convolutions that show is undertaking to pile on the misery for Oliver.

Felicity was absolutely right to back out of marrying Oliver if she couldn't get over her resentment for not being looped in about William. But it's yet another example of the show putting Oliver in an unfair position and making him squirm. I did like that William's mother took responsibility for her decision in the lair.

I was also frustrated by the fact that Oliver is presented with two courses of action with regard to his role in William's life, one that would be fulfilling for him, and one that would be self-sacrificing, and again he chooses the self-sacrificing path. Kids have to deal with lots of hardships. It's ridiculous to me that William we be better off not knowing his father just to protect him from what his father does. Soldiers that go off to war zones don't remove themselves from their children's lives. Police officers working dangerous beats don't remove themselves from their children's lives. They just find other ways to build support system and create a sense of safety.

With Darhk's downfall, I'm starting to think Malcolm is the person being referred to in the flashforwards.
 

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