360 surround vsx-d812 help

Leonard_M · 05-07-2006, 09:03 AM

im not sure if this is the right place for this but it seemed the closed fitting.
Im trying to hook my xbox 360 to my receiver and have it play to 4.1 but im having some problems i have a pioneer vsx-d812 receiver.. here is how i have things set up.. i have my 360's audio and video cables running to my receiver to the dvd/ld(Right/left inputs) and to the video to the dvd in.. from there i have my 4 speakrs set up to the front(l/r) and surround(l/r) i can hear the audio out the the front speakers but not the surround..(i tried changeing speakers to make sure they work and same thing)... i also have the receiver set to 4.1 in the menu for speakers... i have the videoout coming from the receivers monitor out using a coax video cable to a converter box and then from there a standard cable to my TV but i get no picture.. if i hook the xbox video to the converter box it shows fine jsut not when i run it to the receiver.. also i cant for the life of me get the surround to work.. i even tried hookin the dvd video to the coax(dvd input) .. ive never been able to get this to work even with a regular dvd player...any help would be great on this.

EricW · 05-07-2006, 12:41 PM

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audio and video cables running to my receiver to the dvd/ld(Right/left inputs)

are you using analog audio cables? shouldn't you be using a digital audio cable?
that said, you should be getting ~some~ surround even with analog - if the 360 doesn't support 4.1, at the very least a DVD player should.
i have a pioneer vsxd811s.

Leonard_M · 05-07-2006, 02:33 PM

yeah i have the HD av cable that comes with the 360 its supposed to work for surround sound.. even with a dvd player i get no surround.. i followed the receivers book to a Tee and even tried a few other things and i cant get the surround sound.

JeremyErwin · 05-07-2006, 03:40 PM

hmm.

Xbox 360: How to connect an Xbox 360 console to a TV by using the Component HD AV Cable

Specifically,

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Note The Component HD AV Cable does not include an optical S/PDIF cable. The Component HD AV Cable only includes the optical connection port. Therefore, you may have to purchase an optical S/PDIF cable separately. The S/PDIF connection port is located at the end of the cable on the base of the AV connector that you use to attach to the Xbox 360 console.

Note that you probably should set the XBox 360 to output Dolby Digital, rather than PCM. Probably located in some system configuration menu.

ah, here we are:

Xbox 360: How to configure Xbox 360 audio settings

someone should tell mickysoft about the pedagogic value of illustrations...

Leonard_M · 05-07-2006, 08:13 PM

JeremyErwin thanks im gonan go give this a try hopefully it works.. im guessing not as i was never able to get it to use surround even with a dvd player but here goes

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Leonard_M · 05-07-2006, 09:06 PM

yeah it was a no go .. i must be doing something wrong.. ir my receiver isnt working right.. im stumped.. ive tried everything i can possibly think of and i cant get the video to show when i run it through my receiver either.. i dont have the optical S/PDIF cable (is this a must have?) even if i dont get digital surround i should at least get sound through all the speakers with analog right? and even a picture?

EricW · 05-07-2006, 10:32 PM

what does the receiver's display say? does it acknowledge dodbly digital and ex etc? or does it just say 'dvd'?

JeremyErwin · 05-07-2006, 10:35 PM

The optical cable is pretty much a must. You could use dolby prologic ii or dts neo to simulate surround, but it's just not the same.

It sounds as though you really should read your receiver's manual. Note that the VSX-812, has, in my opinion, a rather confusing back panel layout, so pay attention to the labels.

Leonard_M · 05-08-2006, 10:07 PM

i did read the manual everything it says i followed if u want i will scan the instructions and post them... i have the back panel set up exactily as showin the manual.. and i tried the receiver to auto detect.. analog, digital and stright set it.. and still nothing the only thing i dont have and didnt try is the optical..but i figured i should still beable to get sound out of everything with analog.. but im not able to.. i have a digital cam so i can take pics of how i have the back set as well

JeremyErwin · 05-08-2006, 11:10 PM

I have the manual, so scanning it in is not a problem.

I gather you have a television, a DVD player, and a XBox 360. You also mention a "converter box". Is this a RF modulator?

But a photoset showing how your cords are plugged in might be very helpful.

Pressing the "STANDARD" button on your remote will cycle through the surround sound modes (dts neo, prologic, etc). You should then be able to hear some sound from the rear speakers.

EricW · 05-09-2006, 02:13 AM

did you try doing a 'test signal' to see if there's even any sound coming out of the rear(s)?

Leonard_M · 05-09-2006, 08:33 AM

Ok so here is a pic that i did this morn it was a rush job and my cam died after one pic so hope this works.. where i have the blue color is where my xbox runs in to the receiver.. the left and right audio and the video goes to there as well as my monitor out that runs to my converter(RF converter i have an older tv with just a standard cable hookup) the red is my front right and left speakers and the green is the rear speakers(i have them just sitting in front for now) i also tried hooking them to the purple square on the pic which says surround back.. but still nothing.. its exactly what it says to do in the manual in chapter 2 under the 5 minute guide.