Lost: Season Four - Page 39

John Swarce · 05-30-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal S

Funniest line?

Paraphrasing Locke:
"You do know he specifically said not to put anything metal in..."

I thought it was "So?" from Ben (although I like that type of humor).

I am on the side that loved this finale. True, I did look at the clock, but only to remark to my son that a lot was happening in a short amount of time (although with all of the commercials, this two hour episode was probably only an hour and ten minutes long).

Will have to rewatch it on the DVR this weekend.

When does the DVD set come out??

--John

JeremyErwin · 05-30-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NeilO

Yes, quite well done.
I was thinking about how she acted at the press conference. Why would she want to work with Widmore to find the island?

I think we'll find that Sun's plans are going to be rather devious, and she may be plotting against Widmore.

NeilO · 05-30-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by todd s

-With regards to Jin. I think somehow Sun finds out he might be alive on the island and she thinks Widmore can get her back there.

Jin is a good swimmer, so he might have dived off. We also don't know what happened to Faraday and his boat of people. Could Jin had met with them?

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Originally Posted by todd s

-I wonder if when the Oceanic 6 return that it hasn't been 3 years. Since they found the murdered doctor before he actually died. So when you back to the island you may be going back in time.

It depends on how they get back to the island.

Neil

Jeff Cooper · 05-30-2008, 09:22 AM

I'm sure that the island has just shifted forward in time a few years or so.

There was a great deal of set-up and foreshadowing for the event in the orientation video that Locke watched. Dr. Halliwax said about the bunny: (paraphrasing) "We are going to attempt to shift him forward a few moments in time. To the casual observer it will appear that he has dissapeared momentarily"

Replace "Bunny" with "Island" in that speech and you have what happened.

Probably in 3 years or present day the island will reappear and no time will have passed for the people on the island.

RAF · 05-30-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeM

Wow, I feel like I saw a different finale than the rest of you. Last season's season finale was some of the best television I had seen in ages. There was tension and an entire feeling of "who do you trust, Ben, Locke or Jack?" Then combined with flash forward reveals that really opened up the entire series to me in a whole new way. It was nothing short of amazing.

This time around? Meh. We already know who the "Oceanic Six" are, along with some flash forwards, so there was never a sense of tension for me. It was like reading the final pages of a novel and knowing the end and then it was more of a formality of putting some of the pieces of the puzzle together this time around. Since we knew Saywer wasn't one of the "Oceanic Six" it was a given he was getting off the chopper, and so on.

It just seemed like an entire 2hrs of implausible plot points (move the island) that they will do a lackluster job of revealing when the time comes, all to have it climax with a falsely important "who is Jeremy Bentham?" that by the time they revealed it, I didn't even care.

I've seen every episode of Lost, and these last few really have me glancing at my watch during the episodes more and more. I thought this finale might really shed a ton of new light on the plot like it did in last year's finale, but consider me deeply underwhelmed. Zzz.

Well, I guess we just have to agree to disagree then. I thought that the final two hours of Lost, Season 4 was some very compelling story telling. Lots of questions were answered (maybe!) and many others remain out there to be dealt with in Seasons 5 and 6.

Yes, I agree that the finale of Season 3 was more of a cliffhanger than last night's finale but why does that make it a bad episode? Cliffhangers are just one literary and dramatic technique among many. In fact most of the time the climax of a story doesn't come exactly at the end but sometime before the final scenes. What follows the climax is some resolution and even setting some things up for further exposition (like in the final two seasons). To me the climax was when the island went "poof!" and the final couple of scenes did a nice job of setting things up, as they say, "To be continued..."

And even the last couple of moments had some interesting mini-climaxes, specifically the John Locke reveal and Ben emerging from the shadows of the funeral parlor. I enjoyed the "ending" of both seasons 3 and 4 and look forward to further surprises in the final two seasons. To me, an unsatisfying resolution would be if every season ended exactly the same way using the same literary techniques. That's the problem with a lot of other TV shows but certainly not a problem with Lost.

Holadem · 05-30-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by todd s

-Finally. I think I have solved what the island is. Its Atlantis. Look at the things we have seen.. The famous 4 toed statue, the room Ben went to move the island. It looked like it was constructed in the past.

As opposed to the future? I am sitting in a room right now that was constructed in the past as well, and I can assure you, it's no Atlantis.

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H

MarkMel · 05-30-2008, 09:24 AM

Maybe Locke killed himself because he couldn't get back to the Island after he moved it. Ben said that the person who moves the Island can never get/go back.

And what were the terrible things that happened because Jack left? Lord of the flies/Apocalypse Now type jungle massacres?

I guess we might find out in 8 months or so, argh!

I wish this was a book because I could read it at my own pace without waiting an interminable time between chapters.

PatWahlquist · 05-30-2008, 09:25 AM

I went in expecting another huge shift that last year's finale provided, so I thought it was a bit anti-climatic. Not bad, but the previous episode hit me harder.

When the island jumped, the atmosphere did the same thing as before with the blinding whiteout. Wasn't this similar to what happened at the end of season two when Jack, Kate and Sawyer were held captive by Ben and Michael took off on the boat? Without going back through the previous episodes, didn't they explain it as the countdown running out? So, does this mean the countdown would cause the mechanisms that can move the island to engage?

I also thought there would be something noted about Jack dealing with the revelation about Claire and more of Christian/ Jacob.

Pat

Arild · 05-30-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkMel

Maybe Locke killed himself because he couldn't get back to the Island after he moved it.

Judging by how Sayid said, "They said it was suicide", I believe the implication is Locke was murdered.