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Old 05-23-2007, 10:51 PM   #2641 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


Can we still trust that there was a cover-up of the plane crash? We already know that most of Naomi's story was a lie.



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Old 05-23-2007, 10:52 PM   #2642 of 3036
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I was guessing Ben or Locke for the obit.

I thought the same thing. Both of them would fit. In Locke's case, he hasn't exactly endeared himself to people lately, and he had no one off the island. He and Ben are both intent on keeping people on the island. Perhaps he lost the use of his legs again and committed suicide?

Another person that crossed my mind was Michael. Perhaps leaving the island destroyed him. Anything could happen between now and then.

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I was thinking more along the lines of Sawyer in the obit, makes sense with the dialogue that was spoken.

When Kate said "He's waiting.", I assumed she meant Sawyer.

An amazing finale. The mentioning of Jack's dad confused me too.


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Old 05-23-2007, 10:52 PM   #2643 of 3036
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I was perturbed that given the Desmond prediction, Charlie didn't take diving gear with him into the communications room.
I wondered why he didn't just go out thru the porthole window. He's a little, skinny guy; it looked like he'd fit.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:53 PM   #2644 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


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Can we still trust that there was a cover-up of the plane crash? We already know that most of Naomi's story was a lie.

Well Jack and Kate are covering up something in the future. So yeah, I can assume there was some truth to what Ben said.




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Old 05-23-2007, 10:54 PM   #2645 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


That porthole window looked pretty tiny to me, maybe enough to get his head through, but certainly not his shoulders.



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Old 05-23-2007, 10:54 PM   #2646 of 3036
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What a great heroic character arc and death good old Charlie had. Even though I knew it was his destiny to die there and he accepted it, it was quite sad for me to watch and I'll admit it got me misty.

I've always liked Charlie. I know there are some who didn't like him, but I always saw him as a good, kind man who was lead down a shitty path by his brother (who then abandoned him to the addiction he was responsible for). Poor guy was pretty messed up at the time time we first met him, but he scooped himself up and went down the heroic path, though not without a few very human stumbles along the way.

The smile on his face before he drowned almost broke my heart. I'll miss him.


The rescue by Hurley was fantastic!

Mickael is a damn son-of-a-bitch! I hope his grenade killed him, but considering his advanced level of tapping into the Island's healing power, I think there's good chance we'll see the bastard again.

Rousseau meeting her daughter was a very nice moment.

Cool to see Locke being contacted by "Walt" (really some psychic extension of Walt, or a manifestation of smokey, or something else) and nudged back to health and back onto the path he is supposed to follow.

I think that by the end of the show, we'll see that Ben is right in that the Others are "the Good Guys". Not by their actions on the Island, but because of their ultimate goals (though they are using deplorable methods to accomplish their goal, so the title "good guys" will probably always be relative and debatable). It may be that by the end the survivors will understand Ben's motivations, though they'll still hate him for what he's done to them. It may be that he was the one in the casket.

Very, very wild the way the "flashback" turned out to be a "flash forward". I also noticed the razr, and I was trying to think back to if they were available in 2004. I didn't think so, but then I thought that maybe they just came out and the rich doctor had the new cool super expensive phone that not many others have until a year or so later when the price comes down. But it turns out this was the future (relative to 2004), so a fun little clue that was!

Also wild how they really fooled me by referring to Christian Shepard (the prescription and Jack telling his boss to get his father down there). That really cemented that this was a flashback (which was to be expected anyway). But then when we realize it was the future, this pretty much is telling us that Christian Shepard winds up being alive!! Maybe it is still open to interpretation since they didn't have him make an appearance, but I think that is the subtle point they were making.

So the casket? Ben seems likely. But that is based on what we know right now. As the story progresses, it could very well be someone else who would have no one come to their viewing. Maybe Locke? Maybe Sawyer (though probably not, and maybe Sawyer is who Kate is with).

The creators recently said something about how we are getting this part of the story and we have been getting the "back part" of the story, and I think there was some implication that we'd also be getting the future part of the story, so we wouldn't see the whole "big picture" until the end of the show. I remember that comment, but I still didn't see this "flash forward" coming.

So I wonder if they are now going to be giving us more of the future parts of the story? That would definitely be interesting and change the dynamic of the whole "flashback" aspect of the show. I also think I remember the producers indicating something to this effect?

Jack seemed pretty messed up that they made a mistake and shouldn't have left (again indicating that he'll eventually understand Ben's point of view, even if it is after Ben dies). He also seemed to want to get back to the Island pretty bad. It would be wild if as the show goes on, we follow the "present" events leading to their rescue and the future events which follow what happens afterward and the attempts of some to get back. Maybe the show will truly end with them (or some of them) getting back to the Island. Not off. (Or maybe both happen in the series finale.) Doesn't that cook your noodle!!!

Now these 3 next seasons of only 16 episodes each seems like it will have lots to cover and the situation isn't then "do we really need 3 seasons to finish this story?" that some have wondered/complained. Maybe it turns out that the story some assumed they were telling is only part of the whole story they plan on telling. Very cool indeed.

The "Golden Pass" that Oceanic gave the crash survivors was amusing.


So this season finale turned out to be a GREAT finale to a GREAT season of television!

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Old 05-23-2007, 10:58 PM   #2647 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


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I wondered why he didn't just go out thru the porthole window. He's a little, skinny guy; it looked like he'd fit.

Knowing this show, who's to say he didn't.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:05 PM   #2648 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


Loved the episode but one little nitpick. What an extraordinary coincidence that Penny just happened to be transmitting - from where? - at the precise moment when Charlie was there to receive the message. I can handle a lot "coincidences", but this one was quite a bit out there.



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Old 05-23-2007, 11:07 PM   #2649 of 3036
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Re: Lost season 3 discussion....


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Well, it will be fun to put the pieces together in reverse for the next three season. This was a very smart move by the writers to renew the necessity of flashbacks in the show.

Technically the Island will be a flashback now.


the entire first three seasons was a flashback and what we saw with jack and his beard ewas current time.

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Whoa!!! As soon as I saw the Oceanic flyer at the end. I had a feeling it was the future. I am curious who was on the obit???

When does the next season start?? I hope we don't have to wait until Jan.


nope not jan. FEBRUARY

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OK, they fooled me on the "flashback".

WTF? Why did I keep expecting Hiro from Heroes to show up at the end?

BTW, was there something funny about the video in the last couple of acts? From about the point where Desmond and Charlie are preparing to leave the hatch it seems that there was something slightly "off" about the image, like it was playing back off-speed. At first I took this to be something goofy with either the network feed or the local cable transmission, maybe overcompression. But then I began to think that this might be a deliberate effect, a cue that there was something "unreal" about the events we were seeing.

Now I can go back and read all the spoilers and see which of them, if any, panned out.

So, we've seen Charlie's death, but we've also seen Future Jack talk about "going back". Does he mean flying back to the island, or finding