Forum NewsForumsHTF Chat Hardware ReviewsSoftware Reviews HTF Events
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum

Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum Forum Search: 
 
Web Search: 
 
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum


 
Forum Jump

Forum Sponsors


Post New Thread  Reply

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Home Theater Forum
Old 09-21-2005, 10:23 AM   #1 of 41
Steve Phillips
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 1,527

"Medium" goes 3-D in November


TV GUIDE reports that NBC will air a 2 hour episode of "Medium" with several 3-D sequences in November.

The article has a picture which shows anaglyph (red/blue) glasses but I have a feeling the actual show will use the Pulfrich Illusion instead, which isn't really 3-D at all, but simply a trick that is accomplished with an ordinary moving camera. I hope not, though, as I'd rather see an attempt at real 3-D content, even in anaglyph format. Also, 99% of the time anyone tries to harness the Pulfrich thing it fails miserably because they don't know how to do it. Anyone remember the hilariously bad attempt at Super Bowl Halftime 3-D or "3rd Rock"? Pathetic.

I guess the character's psychic visions will be the 3-D sequences?

Glasses are to be included in an issue of TV GUIDE.
Steve Phillips is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 09-21-2005, 11:54 AM   #2 of 41
Jeff_Standley
Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Local Time: 08:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 809

Send a message via AIM to Jeff_Standley
Has 3-D ever done well in anything it has been put in?
This is a horrible idea and I hope they do not do it.



"Do you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main"?
Jeff_Standley is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 09-21-2005, 12:19 PM   #3 of 41
Steve Phillips
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 1,527

Of course. There were several excellent examples of stereoscopic cimema in the 1950's period. Those films used the process to enhance and were for the most part expertly photographed, unlike most of the stuff that's come since then.

More recently, POLAR EXPRESS was astonishing in IMAX 3-D, and it made $50 million dollars on just 60+ screens!

It's just a technology, and 3-D photography goes back to the 1850's! Look beyond the schlock and porn and you'll see it has and will continue to be used with excellent results as well as the low budget eye-straining junk. There is quite a wave of new polarized 3-D coming, using both digital projection and IMAX. It seems the projection difficulties that have always plagued good 3-D projection are finally going to be solved. Look beyond the idea of pointing sticks at the camera, even if many producers in the past have not.

In any case, "Medium" is happenning. If the glasses are the red/blue type, the 3-D is real but of course only as effective as that inferior process allows.

It's all a plot to sell issues of TV Guide anyway; and NBC will do anything to boost ratings!

Those looking to experience good 3-D are advised to check out CHICKEN LITTLE in digital polarized 3-D (in 100 select theatres) or the IMAX 3-D re-issue of POLAR EXPRESS.
Steve Phillips is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 09-21-2005, 02:47 PM   #4 of 41
Jesse Skeen
Member
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
Join Date: Apr 1999
Local Time: 03:14 PM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 5,240

Will they have the NBC Turkey bug in 3-D too?



Home video oddities, old commercials and other junk: http://www.youtube.com/user/eyeh8cbs
Jesse Skeen is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-01-2005, 11:52 AM   #5 of 41
Steve Phillips
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 1,527

Having seen the glasses, we can now confirm that NBC is using the anaglyph red/blue process for the "Medium" episode airing November 21st.

While I'm not a big fan of the anaglyph format, at least it is real 3-D, and the HDTV version should prove interesting.

Glasses will be enclosed in TV Guide, and also available through retail outlets. Any pair of red/blue glasses will do.
Steve Phillips is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
HTF Ads



Sponsored links



Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-01-2005, 10:14 PM   #6 of 41
mattCR
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 726

I think it's the other format.. polarized? Anyway, that thing that they use at Disneyworld and places.. I could stare at that for a while.. that is wild compared to Red/Green 3D attempts. Amazingly watchable.
mattCR is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-02-2005, 12:39 AM   #7 of 41
Roger_R
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Local Time: 05:14 PM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 306

Quote:
Having seen the glasses, we can now confirm that NBC is using the anaglyph red/blue process for the "Medium" episode airing November 21st.
So there will be a regular version too then for broadcasting abroad?
Roger_R is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-02-2005, 09:46 AM   #8 of 41
Steve Phillips
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 1,527

No, it's red/blue anaglyph presentation for "Medium" for sure. (You can't even do polarized format over TV.)

Of course a 2-D version can be prepared and will likely be used for syndication use eventually. (I'm sure the eventual DVD set would offer a 3-D option.)

I'd be very surprised if the 3-D format is dropped for overseas broadcasts, though, as there have been tons of 3-D TV experiments outside the U.S. over the past 20 years. Most likely they'd do a similar glasses promotion in many other countries where the series airs.

Understand the "Medium" footage isn't being *shot* in the red/blue anaglyph format, it will simply be presented that way on NBC. They could take that footage and release it in a higher quality format (such as field sequential) if they wanted to later on.
Steve Phillips is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-03-2005, 02:24 PM   #9 of 41
Kevin M
Member
 
Location: Bethalto, IL. North of St. Louis
Join Date: Feb 2000
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 6,353

Quote:
Anyone remember the hilariously bad attempt at Super Bowl Halftime 3-D or "3rd Rock"? Pathetic.

I still have that 3rd Rock episode taped and I think the Pulfrich technique that they used in the various 3D segments worked fairly well...for a while, but it can give you a headache before too long.



-Kevin M.


Well....the table doesn't wobble anymore.

My Little Unashamed Collection
Kevin M is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 11-03-2005, 03:53 PM   #10 of 41
Steve Phillips
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 10:14 AM
Local Date: 09-05-2008
Posts: 1,527

Pulfrich isn't a 3-D technique. Nothing is actually shot in 3-D; it's all an illusion based on camera movement. I can't really see how you could get a headache from watching flat moving footage through a dark lens for a few seconds? The Super Bowl Halftime and the 3rd Rock thing is all ordinary flat 2-D footage.

Those stupid fireworks rainbow glasses they handed out to promote the VH-1 80s show though, can drive your eyes crazy in seconds. I hope no one out there actually tried to wear them during the show!

Anaglyph however, can be an issue because of the retital rivarly and the distorted color. But at the very least it is real 3-D!
Steve Phillips is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post