Smallville - New Season

Bruce_S · 09-08-2003, 12:20 AM

I believe new season starts on Oct. 1. - I caught a brief preview of the new episode few days ago. One scene that caught my eyes was when Clark and his dad (I think) falls from a tall building. As I recalled, the producers mentioned 'no flights or tights' or something like that when the series started. I'm wondering if they have change their minds about flying part at least. It seems like Clark might be discovering his flying ability this season from the clip I saw. In the past, he has floated and he mentioned of his floating ability when he saved Lana from the twister.

I don't see why we can't see him fly. Since, we have seen how he have discovered his other powers. I think, he would be cool to see. I'm looking forward to this new season. It seems like Lex is destined to be evil by the end of this season.

-bruce

Sven Lorenz · 09-08-2003, 07:01 AM

I hope he doesn't turn evil until the final season.
That would be a good end for the show - in the final episodes something bad happens that makes Lex turn evil and move to Metropolis and at the same time Clark moves to Metropolis to start working for the Daily Planet.

Jesse Blacklow · 09-08-2003, 08:37 AM

Lex already is evil, guys. For instance, he's already stolen Clark's blood, and he's got his high-tech version of Chloe's "Wall of Wierd". But the magnificent bastard known as Lionel embodies most of the bad seed so far. I like to think of the two as seperate personas of the Lex Luthor character from the comics (where there is no Lionel).

Sven Lorenz · 09-08-2003, 08:47 AM

I wouldn't call that evil - he's curious that's all.
Clark has lied to Lex far more often than the other way around.
And think of all the break-ins, thefts and vandalism that Clark has committed to keep his identity secret - if you keep a list then Clark should be called the villain of the show

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Robert Ringwald · 09-08-2003, 12:34 PM

Anyone get yet another Buffy copy?

Season 2 both ended with the main character leaving town to a big city.

Season 3 begins with Clark

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and Season 3 of Buffy began with her ignoring her duties.

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JustinCleveland · 09-08-2003, 12:49 PM

I wouldn't say a "Buffy Copy" based on one coincidence (which we could say is simply good character progression) and another which is a stretch (actively

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and ignoring duties are quite different, imho.

While Buffy never intregued me, because of its intentional camp factor, Smallville continues to pull me in. To call it, or bits of it, a simple "Buffy copy" doesn't seem fair. I'm sure the writers aren't just sitting in a room exploring how they can rip off a moderately-popular cult show which had no actual purpose (come on, she died three times, you can't tell me they had a plan.) At least Smallville eventually moves on to Superman, we all know that. It's the journey we watch, when we all know how it ends (Lana and Clark don't get together, Clark and Lex fall out, Clark becomes Superman.)

Adam_ME · 09-08-2003, 01:27 PM

Robert, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Buffy couldn't deal with the loss of Angel at the end of Season 2, so she skipped town. Clark couldn't deal with the loss of the baby at the end of Season 2, so he skipped town. Hmmm...

Now let's just hope that at the end of Season 3, Lana doesn't gut rogue reporter Chloe with her knife before Lionel turns into a giant demon snake and eats half of Smallville High.

Dan Rudolph · 09-08-2003, 03:36 PM

Justin, I wouldn't call Buffy camp. Certainly no more so than Smallville. Xena it ain't.

Robert Ringwald · 09-08-2003, 03:45 PM

Well, my post was supposed to mention previous buffy comparisons.

Chloe - Willow (obviously lifted from Willow)
Pete - Xander (friend who only helps mostly with research)
Lex - Strange older man that enters Clark's life and has a major impact on him.

There is a website that clearly lists all the obvious Buffy rip-offs. It's simply clear that the makers of Smallville were Buffy fans, or used the same formula (monster of the week because of meteor rocks, monster of the week because of hellmouth).

It just makes me mad they wont admit it. Hell, even an episode titled Shimmer involved a student who became invisible, the opening teaser had a student attacked by the invisible kid in a locker room.

A season one episode of Buffy is just like that.

I'm not saying using the same formula is wrong, but it's clear they are doing it. When they don't even say "Yeah, we liked Buffy and used some of the same themes" it makes me mad.

I write stories to my friend. It's a weekly thing written in script form. While the themes are borrowed heavily from Buffy/Angel/Alias, I don't deny it. If a scene is written and she says "it reminded me of a buffy episode" I usually say "That's where I got the idea."

Jason Seaver · 09-08-2003, 04:30 PM

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Chloe - Willow (obviously lifted from Willow)

What? How, other than being much more attractive than the ostensible female lead?

Okay, Chloe does some of the same research-y things as Willow, but she's also the means by which Clark becomes interested in journalism, and a reminder to viewers that, no matter how nice Lana seems, Miss Lang is not the love of Clark's life.

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Pete - Xander (friend who only helps mostly with research)

Right... Buffy invented the sidekick. C'mon, Pete Ross pre-dates Xander Harris by decades.

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Lex - Strange older man that enters Clark's life and has a major impact on him.

But doesn't really provide guidance, acting much more like an adversery than a mentor much of the time, and is destined to become Clark's nemesis. You have to really want to see a connection to cast Lex Luthor as Rupert Giles.

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It's simply clear that the makers of Smallville were Buffy fans, or used the same formula (monster of the week because of meteor rocks, monster of the week because of hellmouth).

Becuase this formula had never been used before. Especially not in "Adventure Comics", where Superboy made his debut.