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[ John Doe season finale...Holy Cow!! (MAJOR SPOILERS).. ]

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Old 04-26-2003, 11:10 AM   #1 of 21
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John Doe season finale...Holy Cow!! (MAJOR SPOILERS)..


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You have been warned
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Digger is the leader of the Phoenix group. Holy Crap! Now I always had thought their was more to Digger than what they showed. I had assumed he worked for the government. And possibly the Phoenix Group. But, to be their leader. Whoa! that took me by surprise. The only thing that was making me think about him. Is when he called the 2 cops to back him up on the mine raid. I wondered where Digger was. And Doe never mentioned why he wasn't there.

This show BETTER be renewed for next season. I take comfort in the fact that it is the top rated show for it's time period in the big 18-34 age group.



Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.
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Old 04-26-2003, 11:31 AM   #2 of 21
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I've said from the beginning that you don't simply cast William Forsythe (Digger) in the buddy barkeep role, and as the season went on, Digger just had too many tricks up his sleeve not to be part of the mystery/conspiracy.



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Old 04-26-2003, 11:49 AM   #3 of 21
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I agree Patrick, unfortunatly I was too surprised at the twist ending.



I have seen Larry David in action, and that man is an animal, and he has to be stopped.
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Old 04-26-2003, 11:58 AM   #4 of 21
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It would have been cheesy if there was a twin of Doe running the operation. But I half-expected it before Digger's face materialized.



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Old 04-26-2003, 01:06 PM   #5 of 21
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Wow, what a season finale. Doe discovers new abilities and Digger is the head of the Phoenix group!

I was hoping the show would become John Doe and Digger together against the rest of the world, but like Patrick said, you don't cast Mr. Forsythe himself to just be a sidekick.

This show better come back next season!!!!

Has anybody heard anything about a renewal?


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Old 04-26-2003, 03:16 PM   #6 of 21
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It seems that they have moved a little too fast with Digger and the Phoenix group plot b/c it is only the first season and Doe now knows his best friend is the leader of the group he has been trying to investigate. It better come back next season, or they didn't move the plot fast enough.



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Old 04-26-2003, 04:02 PM   #7 of 21
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Very good episode. I didn't expect Digger at the end, but wondered where he was. Didn't you guys think it was strange how Doe went after Theresa, but wasn't followed by either the cops or any NSA agents? Also, did Digger move that cart thing with his mind? Hope the show gets another season.
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Old 04-26-2003, 05:15 PM   #8 of 21
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Jon, Digger moved the cart with his mind. Also, I was wondering the same thing as Doe was going after Theresa.

How did that one girl(the artist) that Doe liked die? Did it have something to do with the Phoenix or was it something different?



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Old 04-26-2003, 06:03 PM   #9 of 21
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How did that one girl(the artist) that Doe liked die? Did it have something to do with the Phoenix or was it something different?
It was Pheonix. They held her as a hostage in exchange for the staff. Unfortuneately, since Doe's still amnesiac he had no clue where it was. When Doe figured out their location, they killed Karen and dumped her body as they left.

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I knew that it would be Digger as soon as the hat came off. Prior to that, I had figured he'd be the mysterious big bad for next season. It's really created a Clark/Lex dynamic between Doe/Digger. I'm fascinated to see where they take it next season. I don't see how they can keep the old Law & Order on prozac format next season (if there is one)

I mean, the fun was watching him pull obscure facts out of the air to piece together the mysteries. Now that he's psychic, it would be far more direct. The season finale has set this show to be a really epic arc and mythology. I love how they intertwined the Vatican with the Pheonix too, since it adds an extra layer. I wonder if the Pheonix staff originally belonged to Christ or if it's something more ancient like Egyptians or whatever that the Church kept for safe keeping and forgot about it.

No one on earth could have known about it, since their psychic squad would have keyed in on that immediately. All in all, a knock-your-socks-off episode. And Fox made it very clear to the show's frontrunners NOT to wrap everything up, so I'd say the show has a pretty good chance.



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Old 04-26-2003, 06:05 PM   #10 of 21
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The Phoenix group kidnapped the girl, Karen, and when Doe and the police got too close, they killed her and left her for Doe to find. That episode was sort of touching in many ways. The bright future of a talented artist snuffed out so quickly without rhyme or reason (that we know of yet). That Digger was in on it really makes Karen's death even more sadder now.

So Doe has telepathic and telekinetic powers. This would get interesting...



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