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01-17-2006, 11:44 PM
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There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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01-19-2006, 08:03 PM
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So what is it about the Canadians and their predilection for picking oddball names for towns?
http://www.aroundthebay.ca/profile/Dildo/dil.asp :b
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01-19-2006, 08:54 PM
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It is thought that the community may have got its name from Spain or Portugal, or an algonquin tree, or the shape of the headland that forms the harbour.
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There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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01-19-2006, 09:03 PM
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There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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01-20-2006, 11:41 AM
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01-20-2006, 12:57 PM
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Cees Alons
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Thanks Mike! I had a quiet day.
Just stumbled on an article about New-York. My vague expectation (see above) that Stuyvesant and Nicholls (both soldiers) became friends later, appears to be true (that is, I don't know the source of this writer, but I assume his story is substantiated):
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It is interesting to note the later career of Peter Stuyvesant. After a journey to the fatherland to vindicate his course, he returned to New York and made it the home of his old age. Here on his farm, or "bowery," now bounded by Fourth Avenue and the East River, by Sixth and Seventeenth streets, New York City, amid the scenes of his former strife and turmoil, he spent a few quiet, happy years. A venerable figure was the aged Dutchman, and many who had hated him before now learned to love him.
He and Governor Nicolls became warm friends, and many a time they met and drank wine and told stories at each other's tables. In 1672 this last of the Dutch governors died at the ripe age of eighty years, and his body was laid to rest at the little country church near his home -- at a spot now in the heart of the vast metropolis, whose population is ten times greater than that of all the North American colonies of that day.
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 for those men!
Cees
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01-20-2006, 03:41 PM
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I cannot imagine what life in NYC in the mid-1600s might have been like.
The incredible change in life's appointments over the last three-and-a-half centuries is too much for me to grasp.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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01-20-2006, 06:44 PM
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Cees Alons
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Hey, Mike,
Last week I found a few links to more than one woman called Rachel Dingmans, probably family to your grand- grand- grandmother (or herself). But then all of a sudden my PC hanged and I had to reboot without being able to save the notepad window I had them in.
But I'll find them again for you (actually your dad)!
Cees
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01-20-2006, 10:27 PM
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Cees: Cool! I can't believe you remember her name. "My" Rachel Dingman (Dingnman) was married to Pieter Frezon on 4-13-1758 andr 5-15-1758. Once at her church in Claverack, NY. The second wedding was in Pieter's church--the Kinderhook Dutch Reformed Church of Kinderhook, NY.
Any information on Rachel would be great. The only other info my dad has on her is that she was born in Rensselaer Manor. Pieter (I believe I told you before) was born in Flanders.
I was in Kinderhook myself tonight at my son's basketball game. I drove over Van Hoesen Road and thought of you, Cees!
EDIT: For the record, one of their children, Catrina Frezon was married to a Rudolphus Dingman. Hmmmmmmm. Anyway, they brought eleven more little Dingmans into the world!  Jacob, Peter, Annatie, John, Catherine, Eva, Andries, Abel, Cynthia, Rachel & Tom!
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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01-21-2006, 06:00 AM
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Cees Alons
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Mike,
Through "her" links, I discovered the name Kinderhook (originally: kinderhoek = Children's Corner). Nice!
The Dutch word hoek is pronounced exactly like the English "hook", but has the meaning of "corner" as well as "angle" ("in the 'hoek' of the room", "a 'hoek' of 90 degrees"). It has nothing to do with the current meaning of "hook" (or "hooker") in English, the Dutch word for "hook" is haak!
I'm sure I will be able to find those links again given some time.
Here's the first one:
Dingmanses born in Holland, die in Kinderhook, all around 1650.
Cees
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01-21-2006, 09:04 PM
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Hee hee hee.....
My nephew recently moved to Seattle. He has just taken a contract job with (drum roll) [rant]Microsoft (r)[/rant]. He's mostly concerned that he will never hear the end of teasing from me. I told him he as soon as he moved up there that he should interview with the evil empire.
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