Velodyne VRP-1200 or BIC H-100 sub?

Ryder276 · 02-11-2007, 04:19 PM

I would like to replace my Dayton 12" sub (too boomy) with one of the two choices in my thread title, which one would you guys recommend??
--or something else thats not more than $400-$500?
Please advise, Thanks.

Dan

postit · 02-16-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryder276

I would like to replace my Dayton 12" sub (too boomy) with one of the two choices in my thread title, which one would you guys recommend??
--or something else thats not more than $400-$500?
Please advise, Thanks.

Dan

My vote is for the Velodyne....if you think your Dayton is too boomy, I don't think you'll be disapointed. I'm not in mine.

Arthur S · 02-16-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryder276

I would like to replace my Dayton 12" sub (too boomy) with one of the two choices in my thread title, which one would you guys recommend??
--or something else thats not more than $400-$500?
Please advise, Thanks.

Dan

Hi Dan

I can suggest that you consider the HSU VTF-2.3 ...it appears to be a mini monster...I have 2 HSU VTF-3HOs + Turbos and I can't begin to use their full capacity...please keep in touch with me.

JohnRice · 02-16-2007, 02:46 PM

Someone asks between Velodyne and Bic, and Arthur recommends Hsu. Knock me over with a feather.

Of those two, Velodyne is a no-brainer, particularly if the reason is because your current sub is too boomy. Also, be aware that "boominess" is often simply a case of the sub being turned up too high or a phase or room interaction problem, though that is likely not the case with your current sub.

Arthur S · 02-16-2007, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryder276

I would like to replace my Dayton 12" sub (too boomy) with one of the two choices in my thread title, which one would you guys recommend??
--or something else thats not more than $400-$500?
Please advise, Thanks.

Dan

Hi John Rice

Which part of "--or something else that's not more than $400-$500?" don't you understand?...with all due respect...the HSU VTF-3MKIII has received some of the best reviews out there...if you would like a link to one of them...please let me know...the OP is all about the best bang for the buck...the BIC H-100 was designed by Dr. Hsu...thank you for contributing to this thread.

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JohnRice · 02-16-2007, 11:31 PM

Oh Arthur, you didn't finish your post with your usual "Please keep in touch with me." I feel so left out. Where's the love?

Ryder276 · 02-17-2007, 07:06 AM

Thanks for the responses guys, -i will look at the HSU VTF-3MKIII AND Velodyne.

JohnRice · 02-17-2007, 10:10 AM

Dan, the Hsu is $700, so if you are upping your budget to that you owe it to yourself to look at SVS. The entire PCi line is cheaper than that. FWIW, either Hsu or SVS will give you more for your money than Velodyne. My ribbing of Arthur aside, I just find his adament "everyone must buy Hsu" approach a bit suspect.

Here's my bottom line assessment. Hsu very possibly may give the most performance "bang for the buck" but I am not fond of the construction or appearance of their subs. Still, in the end, that is also probably why they give the most raw performance for the dollar. SVS, is a bit more expensive, but still an excellent value for a given performance to the dollar, but the construction and styling of their subs is noticeably better. They are built like tanks. Velodyne, is a big, somewhat bloated company with major marketing expenses. They make excellent subs, but most definitely give the least for the dollar.

Arthur S · 02-17-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnRice

Dan, the Hsu is $700, so if you are upping your budget to that you owe it to yourself to look at SVS. The entire PCi line is cheaper than that. FWIW, either Hsu or SVS will give you more for your money than Velodyne. My ribbing of Arthur aside, I just find his adament "everyone must buy Hsu" approach a bit suspect.

Here's my bottom line assessment. Hsu very possibly may give the most performance "bang for the buck" but I am not fond of the construction or appearance of their subs. Still, in the end, that is also probably why they give the most raw performance for the dollar. SVS, is a bit more expensive, but still an excellent value for a given performance to the dollar, but the construction and styling of their subs is noticeably better. They are built like tanks. Velodyne, is a big, somewhat bloated company with major marketing expenses. They make excellent subs, but most definitely give the least for the dollar.

Hi John Rice

It is not about "everyone must buy Hsu"...I own several other subwoofers including SVS, Cerwin-Vega, AV123 Onix-X sub in White Shadow Maple...I have no affiliation with HSU or any other manufacturer of HT/AV equipment, however I would very much like to be on the payroll of any HT/AV company...do you think it is worth as much as an additional $600 for what you consider to be "noticeably" better construction...have you conducted a side by side comparison of the HSU VTF 3MK3 vs. the comparable SVS model?...again, with all due respect...I could have obtained 2 Velodyne DD-18s but the pair of DD-18s was not worth about $4,000 more than my pair of HSU VTF-3HOs + Turbos. My dual HSU VTF-3HOs + Turbos have considerably more output especially from 20Hz down to 10Hz than even a pair of Velodyne DD-18s...to each his own.