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Old 09-18-2007, 06:35 PM   #121 of 126
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Re: White Van Speaker Scams


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What brand are those speakers?

All explained back in Post #98.




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Old 09-18-2007, 08:30 PM   #122 of 126
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Re: White Van Speaker Scams


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It does look that way, doesn't it? Unusual design. Almost wish I could take a peak inside the cabinet and have a look around.


I wanted to look inside as well but the allen head screws have little points in the center and I don't have a tool for that. The ports are fairly long but don't go all the way through.

The veneer is real but not up to par with the big boys. There are some minor flaws and the backs and bottoms are not finished (bare MDF). Basically these are good "early designs" or "pre-production" models. Better than most of the full production middle-of-the-road speakers sold to the masses but not as well made as the big-name companies +$500 models.

For me, the key is depth and transparency. I am more into the magic of holographic soundstages than fretting over flat frequency responses and piano black cabinets. I tend to lean towards bi-polar and di-polar designs, for example, vs pinpoint accuracy. Tube amps more than solid state. It is hard to find inexpensive speakers that disappear. The best pair I ever heard was the Celestion SL700SI which sold for $3200 in 1992. I followed a pair on Ebay just before I bought the BRSE speakers but they ended up selling for around $1200, far north of my budget.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:42 PM   #123 of 126
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Re: White Van Speaker Scams


Add "Digtal Research" to your list.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:45 PM   #124 of 126
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Re: White Van Speaker Scams


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Oh yeah... I found the company
It's called "Scam Tech"

Listen to their quote:
"At Scam Tech, we take great pride in providing our customers the best listening experience possible. That's why we make only one speaker, and make it great. Our Stdoodio Searies speakers represent the pinnicle of hand crafted worksmanship, years of development and research, and our undying passion to bring quality for value.

Our design:
-Crossover


We start with high quality Nichicon capacitors, and Burr Brown solid state electronics in our crossover assembelys to ensure that your sound is rich and natural, just as the master copy intended.

-Bindindg Posts

We use high quality machined brass billets (they only look like 9mm gun casings) to ensure high quality connections to our highly and lovingly designed speakers.

-Tuned Bass Apeture (A Scam Tech Exclusive! )

The unique design of our Bass Apeture is spirled (unlike a golf ball) to ensure high flow and accurite tuning of our high output bass driver.

-Driver Configuration

As you can plainly see, our speaker's elegance is second to none. Our electrostatic main driver is transparent and completely natural, leaving you spell bound when any number of vocals arrive as well as soft, subtle pianos.
Our revolutionary woofer is sized to ensure a small footprint, but make an unheard of 3" of travel!
Our top mounted tweeter, with glass filled rods, helps eliminate resonance, and brings out the highest reproduction avalible to dog whistles.

-Quality Seal of Approval

Our speakers run at an unheard of 130.407 Watts RMS to ensure plenty of power and loudness for even the most extreme situations. (warning, peak RMS can be -27 W).


-The beauty
If you are tired of your wife telling you that your speakers don't match your decor, then you are in luck. We have reproduced the exact longitude and latitude location of our Holland Engineering Plant's playground field in the back of thier building. Just one look at the meadowy fields, and your wife will fall in love. Don't belive us? Let the speakers "speak for themselves".








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Old 10-02-2007, 05:10 PM   #125 of 126
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With a list price of $1200 I would definitely agree. The $499 price I paid seems about right. Without the equipment the big boys have, I'm sure it is more costly from a manufacturing standpoint to make these. But, that doesn't give Carl the right to complain to us, the consumers, about how much he puts into them!

The main reason I bought them was the hope of getting an open sounding speaker with a huge soundstage. The separate tweeter on top made sense to me in this regard. As far as types of drivers, spacing between drivers, and side mounting goes, I have seen (and owned) several "odd" looking speakers that sounded very good. How about MBL?

Anyway, my point of posting was merely to say that these appear to be well-made in an honest effort at a "real" (not "scam") speaker. How they compare to other speakers in the $499 price range I can't answer completely. I can say that so far, I am happy with the sound. Though they sound thinner overall compared to my Monitor Audio mains (due to the extra 10hz depth of the MAs I assume), they have a huge soundstage and no glaring faults- which is basically what I was looking for.

(I hope the shorter paragraphs keeps everyone literate!)
MBL makes high end speakers, they have a established a solid reputation in the audio world, and hence deserve their position. I do not think that Blue Ridge something audio deserves to have that same reputation. They claim they have made other models that received much praise in the audio world, yet they are no where to be found. The use cheap drivers from parts express and make a mediocre designed speaker. I can't imagine the tweeter would offer a very uniform response.

The 8" woofer on the side is poorly reimplemented, it's passive. I wonder what kind of x-over they use (oh apparently one that is so good it's hardly even there!) A three way x-over that is hardly their sounds most attractive, except not really.

Now if you like them, that's fine. If someone likes their Theater Research speakers, that is fine. The point remains, they are not honest about their products and don't deserve the credit of a fine audio manufacturer. Just because I can get Theater Research speakers for less than $50 doesn't make them "not a scam", they are a scam, plain an simple, no getting around it.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:15 PM   #126 of 126
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In response to whom ever mentioned Bose.

Yes, Bose is the biggest scam of all time.
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