Premier Acoustic Speakers Discussion - Page 2

Justin Lane · 07-25-2006, 11:26 PM

"Premier Acoustic Tower Speakers personify excellent value when compared to the more popular "pricey" Klipsch, PSB, and/or NHT speakers. Designed in the USA and manufactured in China enables the dealer to sell them at reasonable cost and still make a profit."

"End the debate! Go to e-bay and insert Premier Acoustic Tower Speakers in the search box. Sound Distributors, Las Vegas, Nevada has been selling them on e-bay for $299 or Best Offer plus shipping. Buy the cherry model and YOU
WILL NOT be disappointed upon arrival. Period."

"Unequivocally -- excellent value!"

"The Premier Acoustic Tower speakers (cherry) cost $300 delivered and
represent uncommon value. If they were manufactured in Canada, the USA, or
even Mexico -- the price would surely be double!!!"

"I understand you being skeptical. Most people are. That's the way it is. Nevertheless, I recommend these speakers (cherry finish) without reservation.
For the delivered price the are an uncommon value."

"I've had Klipsch, KLH, Wharfedale, and JBL speakers. The Premier Acoustic
Tower Speakers (cherry) are an excellent value for $300 (pr.) or less depending on which website you buy them from."

"Don't hesitate to buy these speakers even though their brand name is new.
They will arrive securely packaged in dense cardboard boxes. "

WTF?? Unequivocally -- the alltime Shill!

Parker Clack · 07-26-2006, 12:02 AM

Personally I just think that that John L. is a happy camper when it comes to these speakers. Yes, he sounds like a salesman but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as I personally like these speakers and think they are a great value, well made and sound good no matter what I put through them.

Thanks for all the support on my opinion. That is what it is though, an opinion. Speakers are very subjective and what sounds great to me may sound like crap to someone else. I have my personal favorites in speakers and I can include the PA's in that group.

Parker

DaveF · 07-26-2006, 07:48 PM

I'm intrigued. Even disregarding the comments of the retailer and the unknown new member, Parker gave them a positive review. I've no reason to think him ignorant or biased on this, given his history with the site and reputation for loving quality movie presentation.

LlyodMW · 07-26-2006, 08:54 PM

I can try to help end the debate. There are 2 owners of the Premier Acoustic line. I have installed them and obviously believe everything John L has written. I can state he is not an owner-salesman etc.

With that said, the majority of Brand Name Electronics are now made in China. The particuliar company that makes the speakers for us builds for 19 other American Manufacturers. The # is correct-19.

In time I believe you will see many other reviews of our speakers, and what Parker and John L say is very true-BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR. The reason is since it will be 90% sold thru the internet our overhead is much lower than everyone else. You would have to spend upwards of $1700 for equivlent product. Again, I am the owner, we have no salesman, we currently have no reps.

If you have any questions we will check this forum and answer what we can.

Mike Frezon · 07-26-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LlyodMW

In time I believe you will see many other reviews of our speakers, and what Parker and John L say is very true-BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR.

Lloyd: Welcome to the HTF. Good luck in your endeavors.

I don't believe Parker, while giving a glowing review of your speaker line, ever said "BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR". The closest I can find is "great bang for the buck". You'll find that probably most of us here at the HTF have great respect for Parker's opinion. You seem to have taken great pains to get Parker to give your product a critical review so you must have the same high regard. Changing his words is probably not a smart thing-to-do.

Looking forward to seeing further reviews of your product line. I am, indeed, a cost-conscious bargain hunter.

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Originally Posted by LlyodMW

I have installed them and obviously believe everything John L has written. I can state he is not an owner-salesman etc.

Do you even know who he is? He seems to have a particular affinity for your product. I would be surprised that with the exuberance he has displayed here he hasn't ever contacted you to tell you about how much he likes your product.

While it seems clear that he is neither salesperson nor co-owner of Premier Acoustic, there are those of us here that question his sudden appearance at the HTF--coinciding with Parker's review of the speaker line--and only participating in the threads connected with the speaker line. Sorry for the suspicion.

As I wrote earlier, I look forward to hearing more people come forward who have have sampled your wares.

LlyodMW · 07-26-2006, 09:38 PM

"This is one of the most blatant posts/pseduo endorsements I have seen in sometime. Shame on Premier Acoustic."

Just wait-
As stated by Parker, the speakers are priced 50% below the "big name" brands that are out there. In 2 months you will see hundreds of John L like reviews. We have been in the business 25 years. We know what works, we know value and we know what most consumers want. Time will tell if we are correct.

John L. · 07-26-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LlyodMW

I can try to help end the debate. There are 2 owners of the Premier Acoustic line. I have installed them and obviously believe everything John L has written. I can state he is not an owner-salesman etc.

With that said, the majority of Brand Name Electronics are now made in China. The particuliar company that makes the speakers for us builds for 19 other American Manufacturers. The # is correct-19.

In time I believe you will see many other reviews of our speakers, and what Parker and John L say is very true-BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR. The reason is since it will be 90% sold thru the internet our overhead is much lower than everyone else. You would have to spend upwards of $1700 for equivlent product. Again, I am the owner, we have no salesman, we currently have no reps.

If you have any questions we will check this forum and answer what we can.

Llyod:

Ah...ha.... You're one of two "proud fathers" of the Premier Acoustic speaker line. I congratulate you for your shrewd business savvy and market intelligence. I don't know how many American/Canadian speakers are actually manufactured in China. Athena, for example, is designed in Canada and made in China. Their drab looking Tower cannot be bi-wired and retails for $400 (F2.2) at AudioAdvisors.com. Outsourcing to the lowest cost producer is an ongoing trend throughout corporate America. And why not?? As I have emphatically stated repeatedly -- your speakers have an excellent bi-wireable fit and finish. They don't look or sound "cheap". Nevertheless, if you're able to manufacture them in China for about $50 and sell them on ubid.com or e-bay.com for $300 (pr.) Warren Buffet would probably like to meet you !!! I say "hats off" and congratulations, again!! Nice work --if you can achieve that.

Unfortunately, the people in this Forum are skeptical, snotty, sarcastic, naysayers. Nevertheless, after your speakers are favorably reviewed in other venues my rantings will be affirmed. By that time, however, the demand for your product should exceed supply and the price could go up.

No, I steadfastly DO NOT work for Lloyd or anyone affiliated with Premier Acoustic Speakers!! Please, DO NOT disparage me for telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

I wouldn't go so far as to agree with LLoyd that his product is comparable to $1700 speakers. I'm more comfortable with a $500-600 equivalent value range.

Finally, for all of you "nasties" out there who enjoy bashing everything and everyone -- I challenge you to find a better overall pair of speakers anywhere for $300 !!

Love,

John L.

Chris Gerhard · 07-26-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon

I don't believe Parker, while giving a glowing review of your speaker line, ever said "BEST VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR". The closest I can find is "great bang for the buck".

Wow, very funny. I can't speak for Parker either but I can speak to those typical puffing statements used by salesmen. Your distinction is not meaningful based on my years and those utterly meaningless common statements are equivalent in my experience. I could be wrong and Parker could find a problem with representing he said one and not the other but I sure couldn't. Those statements have no specific legal meaning and only mean in general the item being represented offers a value in the person's opinion. If anything "Great bang for the buck" is better than "Best value for the dollar" since great means something in and of itself while best is just comparative to other items. Great is always meaningful as something good, best doesn't mean any such thing. In other words, Rosanne Barr could be the "Best looking woman in my class" and Halle Berry a "great looking woman from your class". I am going to bet if Halle Berry was in your class, she would have been the best looking but just to say she was best in your class would be an insult. Roseanne Barr is not the slightest bit attractive, I would be prettier in a dress. Parker may only know a group of speakers that offer poor value except these that offer good value and rather than stating best compared to what he knows which might mean still horrible, he made it clear they are a great value. If I hear either, I only think it means it is believed this item is a good value since I know nobody could actually know every possible item to be compared to.

Enough humor from me, my sense of humor might be offensive to some, but I don't think the differences between those two statements amount to anything and there was no attempt to misrepresent anything Parker said.

Chris

DorianBryant · 07-27-2006, 05:18 AM

I don't know about you guys but it sounds like JohnL and Winston are one in the same...

Chris Gerhard · 07-27-2006, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DorianBryant

I don't know about you guys but it sounds like JohnL and Winston are one in the same...

I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Why can't John be just who he says he is, a person who found speakers that sound better than others he has heard and are a lot cheaper? It is certainly possible and about time speakers came down in price if true. I purchased a set of Fluance speakers for my girlfriend's house and will install them in a month or so. I bought them based on many recommendations that they offered very good value and I have never heard them. I would not buy these speakers until further independent opinions can be found. This one doesn't mean much, but if as John states, there will be a lot of happy owners soon, we should be able to read about it.

This might become interesting and with great products like the Oppo DV971H being comparable or superior to DVD players that cost several times as much, I am ready for speakers that do the same. Of course speaker performance isn't nearly as easy to be subjective about.

Chris