Vaughan Odendaal

PB-10 ISD vs M&K 150

Hello,

In terms of deep bass extension (and low distortion output), how would the PB-10 ISD compare to the M&K 150 Ultra (or 350 Ultra). Any thoughts would be appreciated.

--Sincerely,

Vaughan Odendaal

Anyone?

--Sincerely,

Tom Vodhanel

I'm sure the MK350 would handily outgun the PB10...and I would be surprised if the MK150 didn't do the same. All three of these models should offer approximately the same in room extension (as long as the MKs don't have a non defeatable first generation THX filter---which would have them rolling off in the mid 30hz range). From 30hz and up, both MKs should toast the PB10 in clean output capabilities. In the 16-25hz range, it would be closer (imo)...but I'd still think the MKs would have the advantage.

Tom V.
SVS

John Menoni

What an honest post from Tom at SVS. I definately respect the guys over at SVS. M&Ks people are top notch as well. I have a M&K 350 sub and it kicks ass. I will be purchasing an SVS PB12 plus 2 as my second sub. Tom, How do you think the BB12 plus 2 will sound next to the M&K 350?

Himanshu_S

Are you comparing M&K MX-150 to PB10-ISD??? If so, isn't this kind of a ridiculous comparison? Sorry if I'm looking at the wrong model. I searched for MK350 and MK150 but couldn't find anything except for M&K MX-150 and M&K MX-350.

Vaughan Odendaal

Yes, you're right, I got the model name wrong. It is the M&K MX-150 and MX-350.

Thank you for the response Tom. However, I am a little confused by your response because I remember that there was a thread comparing the M&K MX-350 to one of the older cylinder SVS's, and down low, the SVS bested the MX-350, if memory serves me correctly.

That was the older driver. The PB-10, while not using a 12" driver, has considerably more linear travel compared to the M&K 12" drivers, correct? So I'm just wondering how the subwoofer would compare down low to the PB-10 ISD (since the PB-10 ISD is tuned quite low, lower than the 350, I think.)

I thought the M&K's trailed off at around 20hz, while the PB-10 ISD still had usable output at 17hz? Am I right, or wrong about that?

I don't know. I just thought that the SVS (even the entry level model) would outperfrom the expensive M&K models in terms of deep bass extension.


Could you please explain why the MK's would have an advantage down low? Just wondering.

I look forward to a response.

--Sincerely,

Tom Vodhanel

>>>I will be purchasing an SVS PB12 plus 2 as my second sub. Tom, How do you think the BB12 plus 2 will sound next to the M&K 350?<<<

I think we would compare very well, but I do have an obvious bias of course. I would recommend trying to audition both subs if you can. We have so many SVS products in the field now...potential customers can often find a fellow HT enthusiast near by who has one..

Tom V.
SVS

Tom Vodhanel

Hi Vince,

Well, I haven't seen much objective performance data on the bigger MKs. The largest Nousaine has ever measured is the MK125 I believe. The SVS may be close in clean output capabilities in the REAL deep bass. But remember, the majority of recorded bass is still >25hz. And from 25-30hz and up...the MKs should have a substantial edge.

Tom V.
SVS

Edward J M

Considering the dual 12" driver configuration and MSRP of the M&K units, I would tend to compare the:

$1399 MX-150 MKII to the $899 PB12-ISD/2

and

$1899 MX-350 MKII to the $1199 PB12-Plus/2.

The street price on the M&K's is likely lower than MSRP, so this would probably end up being a fairly close price match-up (with the M&K's probably still costing a bit more).

While it is certainly an overachiever, the $429 PB10-ISD (with a single 10" woofer) really isn't in the same size/price/configuration category as the big M&Ks.

Ed Mullen
SVS Customer Service
sales@svsound.com
techsupport@svsound.com

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity."

Vaughan Odendaal

Ok. Tom (or Ed), how would a PB-10 ISD compare to the old SVS 20-39 CS (with the old driver) in terms of clean output?

That would pretty much answer everything. Just a few things, though. I have heard that the "new" ISD driver is around 1-4 db's greater clean output compared to the old one's, and the driver incorportated in the PB-10 ISD is actually closer to a DB12, rather than the ISD. Isn't the "DB" driver considerably better than the ISD?

So, taking this into consideration, I would think that the PB-10 ISD would outperform the 20-39 CS (with the old driver) down low. Am I correct, Tom?

The answer to this question will give me all the information I need.

Thanks.

--Sincerely,