Is this an upgrade "even though its free"

RyanJE · 04-06-2005, 04:45 PM

I have a fluance set up right no it is
2 SV-10s (42hz-20khz)
1 Av-sc
2 SV-6's. (50hz-20khz)

Heres what Im thinking. The SV-10's are 8" side firing woofers that are x-over at 800hz. Also the center channel has a titanium tweeter while everything else has neodymium.

I am toying with the idea of selling the SV-10's and Av-SC on ebay and buying 3 more SV-6's for the mains and center. If they sold I could probably actually have enough money left over for some decent fillable stands.

I 12" sub and I crossover at 80hz. I guess what Im concerned with is the mid to low range missing from the SV-10's (firing out the side under 800hz) and the lack of timbre matching.

What do you guys think? I use this for 95% Home Theater.

John S · 04-06-2005, 05:17 PM

An upgrade??? SV-10's are considered higher end than SV-6's? No?

Now, I can say, that I way prefer the same exact speaker in every location, makes things smooth as silk during pans and such. Easier calibration too.

RyanJE · 04-06-2005, 05:22 PM

Well the SV-10's are towers and the SV-6's are bookshelves. But Im not impressed with the Sv-10's and I figured if Im crossing over at 80 hz that the towers aren't necessarily worth it. The bookshelves are more efficient and and the SV-10 fires <800hz out the side instead of upfront.

Im looking for clarity, imaging and smoothness. Thats why im thinking about the SV-6's. Also the center isnt a true match.

Also isnt it weird that Fluance rates sensitivty as +- 3db instead of freq?

Heres a link http://www.fluance.com/fldyhidetwbo.html.

RyanJE · 04-06-2005, 05:24 PM

I guess im just intrigued by the idea of an all bookshelf system. It seems it might be more seamless.

Phil Iturralde · 04-06-2005, 05:31 PM

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I guess im just intrigued by the idea of an all bookshelf system. It seems it might be more seamless.

Fit's Dolby Labs "5.1-Channel Production Guidelines - Production Environment" recommendation ...

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3.2.1 Front Speakers

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(pg. 24)

Multichannel sound systems add a center speaker to the Left/Right pair used in stereo systems. To promote good imaging, all three should be identical, just as conventional L and R stereo speakers must be matched. If all three cannot be the same model, the center speaker may be a smaller model from the same product line.

3.2.2 Surround Speakers (pg.25)

Whenever possible, use the same speakers all around to achieve uniformity. If this is not feasible, the surround speakers may be smaller than the front speakers but should maintain the same character; i.e. they might be smaller speakers from the same manufacturer.

Around 2003, Dolby published the following guideline ...

5.1-Channel Music Production Guidelines - The 5.1-Channel Music Mixing Environment (2003 Dolby Laboratories Inc; all rights reserved.)

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3.2 Monitoring (pg. 16 & 17)
3.2.1 Reference Monitors

Note: All five loudspeakers (L, R, C, LS, RS) should be identical.

One of the main differences between 5.1-channel setups for music and those for home theater playback is the type of speakers used for the surround positions. The goal of surround reproduction in the cinema (accomplished using multiple speaker arrays) is to provide surround playback to large audiences.

Surround effects are often very diffuse, ambient soundscapes. Dipole speakers are sometimes used in the home environment (rarely used in movie theatres) at the surround locations to help create the wide wash of sound created using an array of speakers in the cinema.

However, in 5.1-channel music production, as well as in films, the surrounds are sometimes used for distinct placement of featured performers. Accurate reproduction in this case requires the use of direct-firing speakers that match the overall characteristics of the front speakers. Use of matched direct radiator or monopole speakers in 5.1- channel music production is recommended for achieving the greatest control of level, timbre, and image location. Due to their dependence on null spot positioning, reflective front and rear listening room walls, and preference of a diffuse surround field, dipole speaker monitoring is not ideal for critical 5.1-channel music production. It is recommended that all five speakers (L, C, R, Ls, Rs) be identical ...

If 100% seamless 360-degree surround sound appeals to you, ... identical bookshelf speakers w/powered-sub is the key!

Phil

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RyanJE · 04-06-2005, 06:25 PM

Wow, thats some good info Ive never read that on Dolby's site before.

Is any one else out there using this setup...I.E. all identical bookshelf speakers??

John s, how long have you been using this setup?

Stephen Hopkins · 04-06-2005, 11:58 PM

What's odd is the SV-6s seem to be a perfect match to the towers in the SX-HTB. The odd part is that the center and surrounds in the SX-HTB are NOT matched. Why they don't make those towers available seperately as well as a center matched to them and the SV-6 is beyond me. Seems like that would be about the best you could get for around $400.

RyanJE · 04-07-2005, 09:12 AM

I asked them that and they said they didnt want to take apart the sx-htb. I had the same thoughts as you originally I wanted the sx-htb towers and 3 sv-6's for center and surrounds.

John S · 04-07-2005, 09:19 AM

I have been using my 10 JBL S-38's for nearly 3 years now.

But, I help out a ton of people with their HT, and if I am doing the system for them. (Choosing the products) They will always get the exact same speaker in all locations.

When size isn't the prime factor, most times these are what would be considered large bookshelf speakers, 8" Low end driver when possible.

I actually hate most center channel specific speakers. I way prefer a large bookshelf for that duty.

RyanJE · 04-07-2005, 01:27 PM

Is there any prob with putting a bookshelf on its side??