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Old 04-06-2005, 02:46 AM   #1 of 32
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I have a new SVS PB12-Plus/2 subwoofer and am not very happy with it so far. Hopefully, after some calibrations and making sure my settings are correct in my DVD player, Receiver and Subwoofer, everything will be fine. With DVD's, I'm not really hearing or feeling that much bass. I have not yet used my SPL meter with my Avia DVD. I would like to first see if my settings are correct on my receiver and DVD player.

I will show the choices for the settings and put [brackets] around the setting I have chosen. Please let me know if I have the wrong setting.

Pioneer Elite DV-37 DVD player

Audio 1

Dolby digital out: [Dolby digital] Dolby digital > PCM
DTS out: [DTS] OFF
96khz PCM out: 96khz [96khz > 48khz]
MPEG out: MPEG [MPEG > PCM]
Digital out: [ON] OFF

Audio 2

Virtual Surround: [OFF] Dolby V/Truesurround
Audio DRC: High Medium Low [OFF]

General

Amp Connection [Dolby digital]
Dolby digital/DTS
Digital Jack Dolby digital/MPEG
Dolby digital/DTS/MPEG
PCM
Not Connected

Amp Connection: [NO]
YES
96khz PCM audio Don't know

Pioneer Elite VSX-36TX Receiver

Speaker setting: [FREE] THX
Front, center and surround: [Small] Large
Subwoofer: [YES]

Channel delay: All speakers: 8FT

Channel level: All speakers: 0.0db (for now)

Crossover Network: Frequency [80Hz]

Bass Peak Level Manager:
Bass Peak Level [_ _ _] (nothing entered)

Dynamic Range Control: [OFF]


On my subwoofer I have the gain set ¼ the way up, the Crossover enable switch disabled and the Phase set at zero. The cable going to my sub is a Monster cable with this written on the side of the cable: M500V Ultra High Velocity Composite Video Cable with N2 Injected Dielectric.

I really want to get this sub working correctly soon. Any help would be great.

Dan



For progress pictures of my HT click on the link.

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Old 04-06-2005, 06:13 AM   #2 of 32
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Do you hear the test tone from the receiver?

Try a differnt cable.

Verify that all PCM settings are selected then try with PCM selections deselected

Bass peak manager is set to off

turn up the gain a little, look for a DTS or THX like the one in the Incerdibles (very strong bass)
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Old 04-06-2005, 06:21 AM   #3 of 32
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Change your output on the dvd player to "bitstream".

When I first got my PB2+ (earlier mod of what you have), I too was expecting more..... began investigating and found I had a placement issue. VERY happy now....those are some monster subs......
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:32 AM   #4 of 32
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Dolby digital out: [Dolby digital] Dolby digital > PCM


This is the problem. You are only getting PCM, not Dolby Digital. PCM will give you Pro-logic output at most. Switch it to bitstream or Dolby Digital. Also turn DTS on, if your receiver can decode DTS.

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Front, center and surround: [Small] Large

You do not say what speakers you have, but with that SVS sub I would run my speakers at "Small" instead of large in order to route all bass to the sub. You may be cutting off some bass by running your speakers "Large" when they cannot handle low frequencies.
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:54 AM   #5 of 32
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Also, what are your room dimensions and where is the sub placed in the room relative to your listening position?

Is it a concrete floor in a basement or is it a normal floor that will give you more tactile feeling?



Where's ED with his checklist?



The guys on here are great and will help you get your sub pounding.



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Old 04-06-2005, 10:12 AM   #6 of 32
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Jeff G,

I think he said he put brackets around what was selected, so he has Dolby Digital selected, not DD > PCM.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:27 AM   #7 of 32
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I too believe that Dan has his system set up properly in regards to DD and DTS. He put brackets around them both to show which setting he selected.

However, I think that his speaker delays are off (very unusual to have all 6 speakers at 8ft!). And more important he has not yet calibrated the speakers and the subwoofer's SPL.......VERY CRITICAL!!

Dan, I would fix those 2 set up problems first before you do any "real" critical listening. Other than that, your set up/bass management looks good.


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Old 04-06-2005, 10:36 AM   #8 of 32
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As already mentioned, I would look at the gain setting, the position in the room and then correctly adjust the variable phase.

My SVS is positioned next to my couch in a corner at the opposite end of the room from my front speakers, and it went from OK to WOW as the phase went from 0 to it's final spot at 100 degrees.

For me, phase made a huge difference.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:18 AM   #9 of 32
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I had mine (a PB2+) which replaced dual NHT 12" subs. Absolutly no compairison... so you must have something off. I tried different placement options but really wanted it in a specific corner.. The test showed only a minor difference so thats where it went. A bit of tweeking with the dials and I so much love this sub. There are times when you can feel you chest hairs move under your shirt... You will figure it out! Also on your receiver were you using prior a y connector for dual sub outputs or just one? you may want to check that. Some like to run the Y adapter. Just gives a little boost but you can do the same thing by turning up the gain a bit. Also make sure you don't have night time use on, on the receiver... you would be surprised how many folks didn't even know they had such a thing and found it on when checked...
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:38 AM   #10 of 32
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