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Old 12-02-2004, 01:01 PM   #1 of 33
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SVS PB10-ISD or KSW-12


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I need to decide whether to keep the KSW-12 I have or get the PB10-ISD. The PB10 will be $150 more so is it worth it to upgrade? My receiver is Yamaha HTR-5790 so I think it has the crossover settings needed by PB10. Will the PB10 out perform KSW-12? KSW-12 also has BASH amplifier, however it's rated at 105 continous while the PB10 is 300. The PB10 is 10" and the KSW-12 is 12" so does the size of subwoofer matter? The room size is 20x12.

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Old 12-02-2004, 01:13 PM   #2 of 33
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The KSW-12 is almost universally acknowledged as a boom box with no real bottom end. The PB10-ISD will be worlds better......



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Old 12-02-2004, 02:37 PM   #3 of 33
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I think the only real decision you have there is what color PB-10 to get



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Old 12-02-2004, 04:02 PM   #4 of 33
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The room size is 20x12.
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In that size room, the PB10-ISD would be great! You would have plenty of headroom if the ceiling isn't 40' high. The PB10-ISD can perform incredibly well in a room much larger. In comparing the 10-ISD to the KSW-12 in extension and sound> I would think you would find the SVS much more pleasurable and very much worth the effort/$$..
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Old 12-02-2004, 04:37 PM   #5 of 33
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I had a KSW-15. The KSW series of subs aren't good.
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Old 12-02-2004, 06:18 PM   #6 of 33
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My room is 19x20 and the PB-10 does quite well.



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Old 12-02-2004, 08:49 PM   #7 of 33
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I tried the KSW in my HT for about 4 hours. To me it sounded like my head was in a bass drum the morning after drinking. It was boomy and seem to produce one frequency.

You will definitely get more bass and appreciation from the SvS.

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Old 12-02-2004, 09:36 PM   #8 of 33
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When I hear the KSW-12 at Best Buy, my ears almost prefer the KSW-10 when it comes to music. The KSW-12 is way too boomy - as the others have stated. Didn't have any "demo" experience by checking the subs out with home theater, so I can't comment on its abilities there.



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Old 12-02-2004, 11:48 PM   #9 of 33
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The only true way to tell is to purchase a unit and do a side by side comparison. Check with http://www.audioenvy.com and see if there is someone who has one in your area so you can actually hear it yourself. I would not expect everyone to go run out and buy a test DVD and a sound meter, but I am sure you could tell the differences immediately. Just like SVS we offer a completely no risk money back guarantee with no restocking fees on that unit. Like Ed said SVS has set the bar on the $400 category.



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Old 12-03-2004, 03:13 AM   #10 of 33
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Allright. I returned the KSW-12 to best buy. Now that I don't have a sub...I'm thinking if it's worth to buy 20-39 PCi instead of the PB10. So many choices!! I was trying to compare the performance charts for the two subs but SVS has different comparison. box subs have SPL vs Freq. with dB in positive ratings while PCi series have negative dB ratings. How is one suppose to compare the two subs with this information? Is 20-39 PCi an overkill? Thanks again for the replies.
- Himanshu

BTW, off topic but I just tried the monster component cables($80.00) vs. the cable that came with DVD player. There was no difference whatsoever. Monster=marketing hype. Now I truly believe that statement. Just my 2 cents...you can have your own opinion
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