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Old 02-21-2004, 06:43 PM   #1 of 46
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MSRP!? I hope not!


I'm buying my first home theater system REAL soon. I'm looking at an MSRP cost at the local PSB dealer of $2627.00. I do have a very good reason to buy it here instead of online-- 6 months same as cash. Is there an average amount that's usually taken off at an official dealer for speakers/etc.? How much should I say I want to pay for the system? How much should I expect to pay?

P.S. Sorry if this is in the wrong area. Wasn't sure where to put this.
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Old 02-22-2004, 12:14 AM   #2 of 46
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Especially when purchasing a full system I would expect at least 10% off MSRP and maybe even 15 or 20. It seems strange to me that they would even list it at MSRP as most places, at least in my experience, list products at least 5% below.
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:48 AM   #3 of 46
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Oh, well actually I'm getting the MSRP off of the official PSB site. I'm not positive what the dealer will be selling them for yet. I wanted to know beforehand. I thought I'd see what to aim for if I attempt to haggle.
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Old 02-22-2004, 12:22 PM   #4 of 46
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I agree, 15% to 20% off would be a reasonable discount from a B&M authorized dealer.
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Old 02-22-2004, 01:08 PM   #5 of 46
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If they do have it listed below MSRP I would start by offering at least 10%-15% below list and work from there. When you're buying all the speakers for a surround system at once they should be willing to work with you.
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Old 02-22-2004, 03:58 PM   #6 of 46
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Im a salesman myself. So I should be able to help. Start with a pretty low price like 20% off and work your way back up. Dont be rude about it. But just start low and work up. You never know they may go for 20% off.
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Old 02-22-2004, 04:14 PM   #7 of 46
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Yes, always be polite to the sales personnel. I'd also be somewhat firm about getting a decent discount. You are putting a good deal of money into this and it never hurts to hint that you'd like to establish a long term relationship with the store. This type of relationship can be mutually beneficial to both the store and the consumer.
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Old 02-22-2004, 06:14 PM   #8 of 46
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Take a look at DMC electronics. It's up top as one of the sponsers. Their prices are great and I had no problems dealing with them when I got my PSB's. I got factory blem's for about 40% less than what I could get locally. The best I could get locally was 15% off list. The money saved should offset the 6 months same as cash. Ready...Set...Charge!!!



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Old 02-22-2004, 07:42 PM   #9 of 46
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If you can, pick up a copy of "The Absolute Sound" magazine from this month (March 2004) and read the editorial from Robert Harley entitled:

"Your Relationship with the High-End Audio Retailer"

This editorial is actually a reprint from his book:

"The Complete Guide to High-End Audio"

The long and short of it is that you should get more value than just a pair of speakers out of a transaction with your local high-end store rather than just getting a great discount online...
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:03 PM   #10 of 46
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Having lived in and around NYC, haggling or dickering or bargaining is considered by some an art form. Myself, I don't worry too much about the long term relationship. I would want to get an idea of just what services I can expect at the store in the event that an item needed to be serviced. That might mitigate matters somewhat.

For starters, I'd hunt around for online prices to get a feel. S/H becomes a part of this. If I could find say 3 places, I'd strike an average. For arguments sake, I'm assuming this is just speakers. Let's say the discount you found was 18-22% from online shopping. Further let's say you're prepared to to strike an immediate deal at 22% but you'd like to do a bit better. Let's say 25%. Go to the dealer and offer something less. 28% off. The dealer will balk. Tell him your wife or girl friend will hit the roof if it's less. He'll still balk. Give him your business card and write your number on it. Tell him to give you a call if he can do better and walk out. If he calls, hear what he has to say. Still no good? Tell him you'll discuss it with your wife. Come back in a couple of days with her. It's time for good cop/bad cop. Show her the speakers...fawn over them. Let her say loud enough that the salesman hears it's too much. Approach the salesman with your wife. Explain how you can't get his price past her. He'll say something like 'well what price works for you Mrs. Beebe? She'll come back with something close to 25% off. He'll probably counter with something awfully close. Then buy it.
I've heard this relationship thing for years. Develop a relationship with your car dealer, with your clothing store, with your jeweler, etc. I'm reminded of a quote made by some British statesman..."We have no eternal friends. We have no eternal enemies. What we have are eternal interests." It's in your best financial interest to strike the best deal possible. The dealer won't sell for less. In the end he's going to try and hit you up for cables and a power conditioner. Like taking your kids through the candy aisle at the supermarket.
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