Blake's Seven availability

Charles_Y · 06-23-2008, 03:51 PM

Does anyone know if the Brit SF show "Blake's Seven" will ever be sold here in the US? I think there have been Region 2 versions available in the UK for some time now. I doubt this will ever see the light of day here. The BBC will take their own sweet time getting to it, if ever. Though, I would much prefer them doing so. I think their Dr. Who editions very good and have a number of them already.

I'm not one for bootlegging but if a title, particularly one produced in another country is not likely to be available in the foreseeable future domestically, I have no qualms about purchasing it from overseas.

My question, where does one go to purchase it? I'm told there is a Amazon.uk Is this a viable option? How does one go about it and what about exchange rates? I fear my only option may be to look for Reg 2 eBay sales/auctions but I have my issues with purchasing there.

I have never seen this issue broached on these forums and perhaps I've erred badly. If so please be gentle.

I have a region free (or one made so) player and would love to get this series. I remember when my local PBS had some respect for UK SF and aired Dr. Who, Blake's Seven and others, but that is long gone sadly.

Ockeghem · 06-23-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles_Y

Does anyone know if the Brit SF show "Blake's Seven" will ever be sold here in the US? I think there have been Region 2 versions available in the UK for some time now. I doubt this will ever see the light of day here. The BBC will take their own sweet time getting to it, if ever. Though, I would much prefer them doing so. I think their Dr. Who editions very good and have a number of them already.

I'm not one for bootlegging but if a title, particularly one produced in another country is not likely to be available in the foreseeable future domestically, I have no qualms about purchasing it from overseas.

My question, where does one go to purchase it? I'm told there is a Amazon.uk Is this a viable option? How does one go about it and what about exchange rates? I fear my only option may be to look for Reg 2 eBay sales/auctions but I have my issues with purchasing there.

I have never seen this issue broached on these forums and perhaps I've erred badly. If so please be gentle.

I have a region free (or one made so) player and would love to get this series. I remember when my local PBS had some respect for UK SF and aired Dr. Who, Blake's Seven and others, but that is long gone sadly.

Charles,

I've purchased approximately ten boxed sets of different series from Amazon.co.uk. I may have stated this before, but I actually find the service to be remarkably quick, and (most importantly for me) I have yet to receive a set that is nothing short of excellent (condition-wise). I am quite grateful for that. I also use Amazon.de (German Amazon.com); I've had much success with the U.K. and German versions of Amazon.com over the past two years.

As far as the exchange rates are concerned, you can probably Google it quite easily. I usually figure on the British sets to be a little more than twice what I would pay for them in the States.

But yes, it will be somewhat pricey. For Trek, I have paid upwards of $150 per box in some cases. However, I have also paid around $105 for two seasons of VOY. I guess it depends on the series. I believe in some cases, the availability of the boxed sets from [whatever] series can drive the price upward somewhat. Since I have never had to return a boxed set that I have ordered from either England or Germany, I don't know too much about the logistics of the shipment of replacement copies. But they send along quite a lengthy Email on how to go about doing this if need be.

Jay Pennington · 06-23-2008, 11:03 PM

Curious, Scott: why did you import Trek, which (with the exception of TOS) was all mastered to NTSC to begin with? I realize the UK packaging was far superior, but to buy something that was converted to PAL only to have it converted back on your end...

Ockeghem · 06-23-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Pennington

Curious, Scott: why did you import Trek, which (with the exception of TOS) was all mastered to NTSC to begin with? I realize the UK packaging was far superior, but to buy something that was converted to PAL only to have it converted back on your end...

Jay,

Hello. For me, the conversion (NTSC / PAL) doesn't figure into my equation as to why I do it. (Incidentally, I'm still working on completing VOY, which I will have completed soon.)

You've hit the nail on the head with half of the reasons why, though--the packaging is far superior in many cases. With DS9, I was tired of receiving cheaply made boxed sets that either arrived cracked or became cracked after a few usings.

Secondly, the special features for both DS9 and VOY are greater (meaning there are more of them) than there are with the North American releases of the same series. I don't import ENT, TOS, or TNG, since 1) I already own those entire series; and 2) I don't believe the special features in the U.K. for those sets are augmented.

Some examples: I was very disappointed when I learned that one of the North American DS9 sets did not include the wonderful special feature on the Defiant (which is included on the U.K. release). Another example: the special features for the first season of VOY are augmented substantially; one of these includes the British sets containing two(!) episodes from TOS on the final disc. I say bravo to that!

Nebiroth · 06-24-2008, 06:40 AM

The Blake's Seven releases are I believe held up in the USA over rights issues to do with Blake's Seven Enterprises who were going to do a remake. It may never release in r1. The easy option is to buy in in r2.

It's very easy to buy this from Amazon.co.uk

Your Amazon account works on any Amazon (except Japan). So your account and payment details will all be the same. The only difference will be that you will be charged in British Pounds. Your credit card provider will convert this to US Dollars on your credit card bill. At the moment, very roughly speaking two dollars will buy you one pound. However, the rate used by your card company will not be quite as good, because they usually charge for foreign currency conversions, they do this by making the exchange rate a bit less favourable than the ones you will see posted on business websites etc. It's normally a couple of percent extra depending on which card you're with.

You will of course have to pay a little extra for international shipping. Surface mail is perfectly fine, although it can take from ten days to six weeks (usually ten days). Airmail is a bit faster but more expensive.

There should be no difficulty in exchanging faulty goods: Amazon will deal with it as they would with a domestic order, obviously you'd have to return the stuff to their UK address.

The only complication that can arise is Customs. If your import is above a certain value (called a personal import allowance), you can get charged import duties and taxes. I believe that the limit for the USA is $100 (ours in the UK is much less generous, only about $35! After which we get charged import duty, a purchase tax, and have to pay a fee to the carrier for the extra handling!).

My advice would be to order the sets one or two at a time, to make sure you don't go over the limit.

Lastly, this all assumes that you have a multi-region DVD player that will play Region-2 discs!

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Tony J Case · 06-24-2008, 12:46 PM

I've been buying imports from a company called Sendit.com for 10 years now. They've got great customer service, good prices and Blake's 7 occasionaly goes on sale for half price every so often there. (I got all 4 seasons for about a hundred bucks through one of their sales).

Since you've waited this long, might as well spend a bit more time and see if you cant save some money, huh?

Ockeghem · 06-24-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebiroth

The Blake's Seven releases are I believe held up in the USA over rights issues to do with Blake's Seven Enterprises who were going to do a remake. It may never release in r1. The easy option is to buy in in r2.

It's very easy to buy this from Amazon.co.uk

Your Amazon account works on any Amazon (except Japan). So your account and payment details will all be the same. The only difference will be that you will be charged in British Pounds. Your credit card provider will convert this to US Dollars on your credit card bill. At the moment, very roughly speaking two dollars will buy you one pound. However, the rate used by your card company will not be quite as good, because they usually charge for foreign currency conversions, they do this by making the exchange rate a bit less favourable than the ones you will see posted on business websites etc. It's normally a couple of percent extra depending on which card you're with.

You will of course have to pay a little extra for international shipping. Surface mail is perfectly fine, although it can take from ten days to six weeks (usually ten days). Airmail is a bit faster but more expensive.

There should be no difficulty in exchanging faulty goods: Amazon will deal with it as they would with a domestic order, obviously you'd have to return the stuff to their UK address.

The only complication that can arise is Customs. If your import is above a certain value (called a personal import allowance), you can get charged import duties and taxes. I believe that the limit for the USA is $100 (ours in the UK is much less generous, only about $35! After which we get charged import duty, a purchase tax, and have to pay a fee to the carrier for the extra handling!).

My advice would be to order the sets one or two at a time, to make sure you don't go over the limit.

Lastly, this all assumes that you have a multi-region DVD player that will play Region-2 discs!

I just wanted to add a small bit to what Nebiroth said here. I don't have a credit card, as I don't use them. But I do use a debit card (used in conjunction with monies from my own bank account), and have found that these work just as well. Other than shipping, I don't believe that extra charges -- such as could be incurred with a credit card -- will apply if a debit card is used. I may be wrong about rates for debit cards, however, as in all honesty I do not look beyond the shipping charges when I order overseas.

AndyMcKinney · 06-24-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebiroth

Lastly, this all assumes that you have a multi-region DVD player that will play Region-2 discs!

I might also add, this would also assume that your DVD player is capable of converting the disc's PAL signal into an NTSC one. Most (but not all) DVD players are NTSC/PAL capable out-of-the-box. If I remember correctly, Panasonic is one of those brands that sometimes makes "NTSC-only" versions of players (though those are usually hard to make region-free anyway).

As for Amazon UK: yes, you can pretty much figure on doubling the costs (i.e. 20 pounds equals about 40 dollars). However, unlike most other mail-order sites, Amazon will deduct VAT at the checkout stage. VAT is about 17-18% of the price, so you will have that deducted when you get ready to check out.

The removal of VAT usually means for me that AmazonUK is typically the cheapest option.

Incidentally, Blakes 7 is also available in Australia, but the prices work out to be higher, in general, there (about $100 per season).

Nebiroth · 06-24-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ockeghem

I just wanted to add a small bit to what Nebiroth said here. I don't have a credit card, as I don't use them. But I do use a debit card (used in conjunction with monies from my own bank account), and have found that these work just as well. Other than shipping, I don't believe that extra charges -- such as could be incurred with a credit card -- will apply if a debit card is used. I may be wrong about rates for debit cards, however, as in all honesty I do not look beyond the shipping charges when I order overseas.

Yes, you can use a debit card as well, although personally speaking I always use a credit card because it is much easier to do things like chargebacks if things go very wrong (this is extremely unlikely in the case of Amazon of course!)

Most cards, credit and debit, do levy a charge for a transaction in a foreign currency. However, it will not be listed as a separate charge: it will be buried in the exchange rate the card company uses. On the bill, they will show the dollar/pound conversion rate they used, and it will be a little less than the business rate, so for example instead of $2=£1, you would see something like $2=£0.975. The difference goes to the card company to pay for the foreign currency transaction.

It is usually a couple of % and, unless you are buying very expensive items, is pretty much negligable!

Nebiroth · 06-24-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyMcKinney

I might also add, this would also assume that your DVD player is capable of converting the disc's PAL signal into an NTSC one. Most (but not all) DVD players are NTSC/PAL capable out-of-the-box. If I remember correctly, Panasonic is one of those brands that sometimes makes "NTSC-only" versions of players (though those are usually hard to make region-free anyway).

Or alternatively, you have a DVD player that has a pure RGB output and a TV that can accept RGB which does away with the conversion problem.

But as you say, most players will convert on the fly.

AndyMcKinney · 06-24-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebiroth

Or alternatively, you have a DVD player that has a pure RGB output and a TV that can accept RGB which does away with the conversion problem.

Are you talking something like SCART, or a PC monitor-type port? SCART is non-existent Stateside and monitor-type ports (on TV sets) are rare, too.

Unfortunately, there's not much demand (or not much perceived demand) for multi-system functionality over here. Plus, the MPAA probably wouldn't like it to be as widely/easily available as you have it in Europe.

Still, most players capable of region hacking are also capable of standards conversion (just not 100% of them).

If the OP's DVD player is already hacked, it should be easy enough to check the setup menus and see if there's a "TV Type", "output" or "Colour System" menu selection where you can pick NTSC as the option.