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06-13-2008, 11:49 AM
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Ronald Epstein
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
It's a shame that a few bad eggs completely ruined it for
everyone here. Hopefully the positive letters you guys are
now sending will get some equal reaction even if they are not
personally responded to.
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06-13-2008, 12:26 PM
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Harry-N
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
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Harry,
Nice description there. Is there any chance that there might be a link to some snippets of the music you describe above? I'd love to give it a listen. 
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Not being much of a web geek, I *did* attempt to load a sample on my web space, but I can't seem to get it to work. If I get a chance over the weekend, I may try again.
My intent was to load a sample Act intro from the new version and the same one from the original version. But the best laid plans...
I wish there were a way of loading the mp3 to the forum.
Harry
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06-13-2008, 12:41 PM
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Scott D. Atwell
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
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Not being much of a web geek, I *did* attempt to load a sample on my web space, but I can't seem to get it to work. If I get a chance over the weekend, I may try again.
My intent was to load a sample Act intro from the new version and the same one from the original version. But the best laid plans...
I wish there were a way of loading the mp3 to the forum.
Harry
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Harry,
Thanks for the effort. I'll keep an eye (and an ear) out for what you end up posting. 
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06-13-2008, 02:39 PM
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David
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
The uncredited music, which I alluded to as a possible reason in the post I started this thread with, has been uncredited for 40 years. It has remained uncredited every time the show has aired.
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06-13-2008, 02:54 PM
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David
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
Yes, it's a shame Mr. Dante was attacked. It saddens me as much as anyone. But to use that as justification to break off dialogue with legitimate media, seems to me, frankly, little more than another rationalization. That CBS/Paramount offered no explanation for the extraordinary alterations before Mr. Dante was attacked says something in and of itself.
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06-13-2008, 03:04 PM
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
The telecommunications company I work for is the same way. If someone in our ranks was wrongly attacked for something by members of an online forum, we would cease all communications with entities associated with that forum and not comment, as our legal department would most likely advise this anyway.
This situation reminds me a little of the Married With CHildren situation, wherein they used the Sinatra theme for the first couple seasons on DVD, then the price went way up to use the song on future releases, so the studio pulled it and replaced it with generic music.
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06-13-2008, 03:06 PM
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
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Yes, it's a shame Mr. Dante was attacked. It saddens me as much as anyone. But to use that as justification to break off dialogue with legitimate media, seems to me, frankly, little more than another rationalization. That CBS/Paramount offered no explanation for the extraordinary alterations before Mr. Dante was attacked says something in and of itself.
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Well, unfortunately, anything that can even be perceived as a threat has to be taken seriously in this day and age. It is proof of the age old adage that one bad apple can ruin the whole barrel.
I imagine given the group's reputation that this will pass, but it may take a long while. Good luck to Gord in re-establishing good relations with the CBS.
So much TV...
So little money!
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06-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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David
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
Then let me just state it plainly: If CBS/Paramount wanted those interested to know why they radically altered the set, we would know.
They don't.
So we don't.
Pick your reason.
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06-13-2008, 04:48 PM
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John DeAngelis
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
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That CBS/Paramount offered no explanation for the extraordinary alterations before Mr. Dante was attacked says something in and of itself.
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I agree. I don't condone the fact that some people were less than civil, but that doesn't give CBS/Paramount the right/justification to hide behind that. What about the people who were civil? Besides, until they provide an explanation and restore the original soundtrack, they're the ones that will be losing our business.
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06-13-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
With regards to the signature music that usually accompanies the first appearance of Lt. Gerard in most every episode, i.e. "Gerard's Theme," was not, in fact, composed by Pete Rugolo. I believe it is one of the cues lifted from a TWILIGHT ZONE episode, most likely composed by Jerry Goldsmith.
Regardless, it is a powerful piece of music and I can no more imagine it missing from the series than I can "The James Bond Theme" by John Barry suddenly being replaced in a Bond film with an inferior sound-alike.
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06-13-2008, 05:06 PM
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
The two may not be connected, but I was trading emails with the Paramount PR person before Dante was attacked, and I haven't heard anything since. No one is using the attack as an excuse, I just haven't heard anything from them since that happened.
Requests like these often take time; Paramount PR has to track down the person at CBS that worked on the set, find out what happened, probably run it by 1 or 2 other people, then get back to me. The marketing person who worked on the set may not be the person that removed the music (sounds like this would be someone in the legal department).
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06-13-2008, 05:09 PM
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David
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Re: The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews
Professor, I could certainly be wrong, but I have never heard Gerard's theme in any TZ episode. I do believe it was a theme composed for The Fugitive.
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06-13-2008, 05:17 PM
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