The Fugitive, Season Two Volume 1 - Reviews - Page 18

Ockeghem · 06-20-2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Y

Funny thing is, session drummer Bernard Purdie has claimed they did exactly that back in 1964, and it's Purdie we've been hearing all these years! (It's nonsense, but a few of the Beatles' pre-EMI tracks with original drummer Pete Best were re-released in the US with another drummer overdubbed, and some have speculated this is what Purdie remembered.)

[Apologies for this being in the wrong thread. Moderator may move if so desired.]

Mark,

Yes, I've read of this over the years. W. Everett has some useful information on the Purdie recordings:

"All four Atco sides were altered in 1964 for these releases, through editing or by adding work from Atlantic session players Cornell Dupree (guitar) and Bernard Purdie (drums); see Gottfridsson 1997, pp. 222, 310, 313, 333, and 341."

See W. Everett, The Beatles As Musicians: The Quarry Men Through Rubber Soul (New York: Oxford University Press, 2001) p. 394 (nn. 3). See also p. 214 (Table 3.2, final entry).

The Atco tracks Everett refers to are on the Ain't She Sweet LP, Atco SD 33-169, released October 5, 1964 (Hamburg recordings from 1961). This is one of the over 250 Beatles LPs I own, and it is a treasure.

Jeff Willis · 06-20-2008, 10:21 AM

Gary,

Welcome back a 2nd time

Yeah, I knew this news was best kept unknown until you got back from your vac.

It's ironic that, not long after that "Pedestal" ad that TSoD posted, we get news like the S2V1 soundtrack fiasco.

An fyi on the "DD Cart" thing that Gary noticed about the S2V1 (Fuge), I'm finishing up my DD cart today and tomororw (ouch $$$$'s), and I noticed that the same message appears in the cart for "Mission:Impossible" S4. ("shipps directly from Mfgr)". Interesting.

Running short of time this morning in Dallas, so I'll just say to Gary, as "Lt Gerard" would say....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt Gerard

"Mrs Taft, Don'l Leave Town!

It ain't worth the risk (Perry Mason S3V1, Rawhide future's) I'll pay you to stay in Fla

Cees Alons · 06-20-2008, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Von Pein

An e-mail address that is advertised in black-and-white at Paramount's website (in the "FAQ" section, btw) cannot be revealed in a post at HTF??

Yes it can.

First of all: there are different rules if someone displays his/her own e-mail address and when someone else publishes it. I think that is a rather clear distinction.

In the second place: you can publish it in a way that makes it harder for bots to read. I.e. adding "delete this part" (or so) to the address and/or paraphrase the @-symbol. A rather common practise on the web.

Something like that was done to the version in your post (yes it was me doing that). Any human reader would have been able to understand what the real e-mail address was and to use it if desired. (I don't know why it's totally gone from your post now.)

Cees

Bob Hug · 06-20-2008, 01:41 PM

Wikipedia has now included a sentence about the music replacement issue in its Home Video section on "The Fugitive" . . . . .

"Many reviews of this third DVD set were highly negative because the entire original musical score for every episode was replaced with newly composed synthesizer music."

Link: The Fugitive (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carabimero · 06-20-2008, 06:34 PM

I hope people continue to press CBS/Paramount about this. I feel it is the only way to get the set redone.

David Von Pein · 06-20-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Any human reader would have been able to understand what the real e-mail address was and to use it if desired. (I don't know why it's totally gone from your post now.)

I deleted it.

buford2 · 06-20-2008, 11:12 PM

I have just sent my snail mail signed letter to Paramount Home Entertainment.

Everybody send one and get your friends to do the same.

MattPeriolat · 06-20-2008, 11:29 PM

I'm looking for a relevant post to add this to, but CBS/Paramount ain't done with us yet!

TVonDVD.com posted the back cover art for Untouchables S2 tonight and guess what? If you squint a bit, you can read the fine print:

"Some episodes may be edited from their original broadcast."

Oy.

Granted, nothing to really panic over, but given what happened with Fugitive...

Mike*HTF · 06-20-2008, 11:55 PM

Well I doubt that the disclaimer will go away regardless if CBS/Paramount decides to change their policies regarding using original sound/music.

Carabimero · 06-21-2008, 02:28 AM

That disclaimer is standard now whether episodes/audio have been altered or not. So it really means nothing. And you never know till you play.

Cees Alons · 06-21-2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

CBS/Paramount decides to change their policies regarding using original sound/music

I don't think it's a "policy". I think it's honestly about getting the rights for DVD publication and how expensive they think they can afford to let them be.

Now, whether or not we agree with the outcome of their decision processes (and the way they inform potential buyers about it), that's another matter....

Cees

Carabimero · 06-21-2008, 06:52 AM

I just watched the fourth season episode, "The Breaking of the Habit," a sequel to "Angels Travel on Lonely Roads." There is stock music in the episode (a cue also used in seasons 1-3), so I can confirm that there is stock in all four seasons.