My Three Sons: Season 1, Vol. 1 - Page 8

Gary OS · 11-03-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jdee28

I guess then where CBS/Paramount goofed in terms of the music replacements was to do it to a show like The Fugitive, which still has a sizeable amount of fans, not to mention respect from critics and other quarters. Had they just confined it to more obscure or niche shows like My Three Sons, they would have gotten probably less than ten percent the negative publicity or criticism they got for doing it to the Fugitive.

John, again I have to say that what you've postulated seems like a very reasonable assumption to me. I think CBS/P can count their lucky stars that apparently no one is going to hold their feet to the fire again with M3S like they did with THE FUGITIVE. It's a shame really, because I feel the show deserved some kind of advocacy, but after over a month it seems like the trail has gone cold and no one in a position of influence is giving it much thought. Too bad.

Gary "I thought this second debacle from CBS/P would have been a perfect chance to really, really hold them accountable and let them know how much we disagreed with this decision - but it takes more than just a few posts on an internet message board to do that, IMHO" O.

Ron Lee Green · 11-03-2008, 10:43 AM

I just received disc 2 from Netflix and I watched the Lady Engineer episode. There is this long sequence where Mr. Douglas is searching for this Lady Engineer in the office hallways and the background music is so awful its annoying. I've never even heard the original but it HAS to be better than this!

Jim B. · 11-04-2008, 01:49 AM

Lady Engineer had a fantastic score. Classic west coast jazz, Had to be Bud Shanks group. Mark Heyes pathetic attempt at jazz is a real bad joke. I have seen some pictures of Mark Heyes in his studio. It is a huge room with a movie screen at one end and his mixing console and synthesizer at the the other end. He looks like one of these new age types, wears black, the pony tail and earings, the whole image thing, style over substance. He has the ultimate studio but can't play any music. Just another Hollywood phoney. Ron Komie is the same. I cannot understand how those guys can sit in that studio and listen to the beautiful original music they are getting ready to try and rework and not feel 1 foot tall in the midst of the awesome skills of real musicians like Alexander, DeVol, Rugolo, Morton, etc.

Jim B. · 11-04-2008, 02:45 AM

Oh, I was going to mention that I have been watching Ozzie & Harriet on a local station and am hearing some of the same music as M3S.
I also do not believe the Capitol library excuse. I think Paramount simply does not want to pay for the quality shows music. I am disgusted that an idiotic show like The Beverley Hillbillies is released intact while shows with a lot of depth like M3S or the Fugitive are destroyed.

TravisR · 11-04-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

I think Paramount simply does not want to pay for the quality shows music.

So Paramount decides which shows are good, they change the music on those shows, anger the fans of those shows and lose sales that they otherwise would have had AND at the same time, they decide to keep the shows that you and they have decided are bad and they keep music intact on those shows? That's not a very good plan.

Bert Greene · 11-04-2008, 02:20 PM

I want to echo Jim's assessment of the marvelous cool-jazz score on the "Lady Engineer" episode, which so beautifully evokes the era (1960) it was from. It's the highlight of the episode. Knowing that the dvd-set replaced it makes me ill. I've not necessarily been a stickler when it comes to cut scenes, minor music replacements, original aspect ratios, and I even accepted (albeit NOT happily) occasional syndication prints, like on the "Real McCoys" sets. But, wholescale underscore replacement is just hugely unacceptable, to put it mildly. It's akin to colorization. In some ways, it's even worse. I'm just glad I still have my 22-year-old videotape recordings of the 1st-season of "My Three Sons," from back when it appeared on Nick-at-Night.

Plus, I'm still furious at Paramount for doing all this. I've passed on several of their recent releases, which had been sure-fire purchases for me, owing to my disgust over their "M3S" abomination. In a way, it's even dimmed my enthusiasm for the whole tv-on-dvd trend, and is undoubtedly part of the reason I hardly even post here anymore. Oh, well. There's still a lot of interesting items coming out this month (M Squad, Mr. Peepers, etc.), and maybe they'll re-charge my batteries, hobby-wise.

Bob Hug · 11-04-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bert Greene

In a way, it's even dimmed my enthusiasm for the whole tv-on-dvd trend, and is undoubtedly part of the reason I hardly even post here anymore. Oh, well. There's still a lot of interesting items coming out this month (M Squad, Mr. Peepers, etc.), and maybe they'll re-charge my batteries, hobby-wise.

Bert, I for one, enjoy your posts and hope you'll continue despite your profound disappointment in this release. I have a suspicion that once you have some of these other vintage releases in hand, we'll be able to look forward to more posts from you.

Joe Lugoff · 11-04-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

I am disgusted that an idiotic show like The Beverley Hillbillies is released intact while shows with a lot of depth like M3S or the Fugitive are destroyed.

Now, just a minute! "The Beverly Hillbillies" was actually a very cleverly written show. I would say it had better scripts than "My Three Sons" -- they were certainly funnier.

I think a lot of critics at the time, and some people even today, think that because the characters were stupid (or uneducated and naive ...well, ok, Jethro was stupid), therefore the show was stupid. But the stories and the lines were cleverly written, if you ask me (which, of course, you didn't.)

Carabimero · 11-04-2008, 11:14 PM

If you watch the Beverly Hillbillies and you're awake at all, the Clampetts (and possibly Miss Hathaway) are the only intelligent people on the show.

Gary OS · 11-07-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bert Greene

I've not necessarily been a stickler when it comes to cut scenes, minor music replacements, original aspect ratios, and I even accepted (albeit NOT happily) occasional syndication prints, like on the "Real McCoys" sets. But, wholescale underscore replacement is just hugely unacceptable, to put it mildly. It's akin to colorization. In some ways, it's even worse.

Plus, I'm still furious at Paramount for doing all this. I've passed on several of their recent releases, which had been sure-fire purchases for me, owing to my disgust over their "M3S" abomination. In a way, it's even dimmed my enthusiasm for the whole tv-on-dvd trend, and is undoubtedly part of the reason I hardly even post here anymore. Oh, well. There's still a lot of interesting items coming out this month (M Squad, Mr. Peepers, etc.), and maybe they'll re-charge my batteries, hobby-wise.

Just had to say "amen" to this post from my good buddy, Bert. I feel just like you do on all points, and have definitely scaled back many of my CBS/Paramount purchases. I used to buy almost any series from the 50's through the 70's that they released, and even some from the 80's on up just because I wanted to say "thanks" to them in a tangible way. But no more.

Gary "it's just such a shame they went this route" O.

Elena S · 11-07-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Lugoff

Now, just a minute! "The Beverly Hillbillies" was actually a very cleverly written show. I would say it had better scripts than "My Three Sons" -- they were certainly funnier.

I think a lot of critics at the time, and some people even today, think that because the characters were stupid (or uneducated and naive ...well, ok, Jethro was stupid), therefore the show was stupid. But the stories and the lines were cleverly written, if you ask me (which, of course, you didn't.)

The BH was actually very intelligently written and sublimely acted. That's why it remains a classic.

Mike Frezon · 11-08-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Elena S

The BH was actually very intelligently written and sublimely acted. That's why it remains a classic.

The cast (including the lesser players) was quite accomplished.

But even though we are rushing to the aid of a classic TV show, we digress...