Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 5 - Page 2

JasonJason · 07-12-2007, 01:54 AM

Good points all, Jeff. I agree that the debate can end here and all references will hopefully be removed once the threads are merged. Hopefully, nothing I said was taken personally or as an attack. It genuinely felt like a good debate, with correct points made on both sides, so I actually felt the need to continue. I normally wouldn't keep going on something like this (and, in fact, never participated the 4 previous years), but I felt like we had intelligent dialogue going on back and forth. So, once again, thanks for the input and the conversation and my final word is "BRING ON VOLUMES SIX AND BEYOND" (oh, and please give us a Disc devoted to Foghorn Leghorn!)

David Rain · 07-12-2007, 01:54 AM

Say, while you folks continue to have this stupid and pointless argument about whether 7-minute cartoons are actually movies (which they aren't) I'll actually be enjoying this kick-ass box set. Too bad so many of you are missing the real issue here.

I'm glad they're devoting an entire disc to Bugs & Daffy as their pairings are usually killer. And I'm still waiting for an entire disc devoted to Foghorn Leghorn. Most of his shorts would fit nicely onto one disc. So where's the Foghorn love, folks ?

JasonJason · 07-12-2007, 01:58 AM

I agree with you whole heartedly David about everyone's favorite rooster - see my post above:

BRING ON THE FOGHORN!!!

tjguitar85 · 07-12-2007, 01:59 AM

I wish they'd do a McKimson disc.

Andrew Radke · 07-12-2007, 02:09 AM

I agree regarding Foghorn Leghorn. I had a VHS tape years ago devoted to ol' Foghorn and it was great fun to watch. I'd love to see an entire disc devoted to him. I get excited every time these Golden Collections get released. I watch my existing sets over and over, and it's just great to know there will be another 60 shorts coming! I hope they don't stop releasing these until ALL shorts are made available. Now THAT would be something worth showing off on the DVD shelf.

Jeff Newcomb · 07-12-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey3rd

As I pointed out - The Chuck Jones PBS special is out on DVD at this moment. You can buy it on Amazon for $13. It is a TV show on DVD. Now it is being released as part of this package. I'm not dealing with what ifs and a TV special that only exists on DVD because it is soley being packaged as a bonus feature.

Very well, a different example then. The History Channel's "Modern Marvels: Howard Hughes" is available on DVD at this moment at Amazon for $25. It was later included on disc two of The Aviator. Therefore, The Aviator is now a TV Show on DVD?

Jeff Newcomb · 07-12-2007, 02:14 AM

Now I know we have to many of these threads. I reply in one Looney Tunes thread, and my post turns up in a different one. Weird!

Kevin Martinez · 07-12-2007, 02:15 AM

TV Shows in the most literal sense are programs that are created to be shown on television first and foremost. the WB cartoons were created to be shown before the Feature films and were never expected to be shown on televsion.

These reason that the cartoons were shown on TV in the first place was because selling a number of them to a.a.p. and others provided Warner with some quid after the ruinous Paramount decrees. Then WB saw the value of creating a Bugs Bunny show with what they had left.

Tory · 07-12-2007, 08:26 AM

Can't wait for this. I am hoping for Coal Black as well. How long until the actual contents are revealed?

Suggestion about the argument:

Create a third forum for Theatrical Short Subjects on DVD that were shown on television in such a manner so as to convince a great amount of the populace that they were TV shows or just Theatrical Short Subjects on DVD. Place all topics about Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Pink Panther, Woody Woodpecker, Betty Boop, Flip the Frog, Bobby Bumps, Out of the Inkwell, Heckle & Jeckle, Popeye, Casper, Three Stooges, Charley Chase, Andy Clyde, Our Gang and other shorts in this forum. Also sticky a thread about bonus shorts featured on other DVDs of feature length films.

Tony Zannikos · 07-12-2007, 08:52 AM

Love your idea for that third forum Tory, but I dont think itll happen. In the meantime do what I did, sign up over at gac forums,they are experts on classic cartoons. Im known as mighty mouse over there, lol.

Corey3rd · 07-12-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Newcomb

Very well, a different example then. The History Channel's "Modern Marvels: Howard Hughes" is available on DVD at this moment at Amazon for $25. It was later included on disc two of The Aviator. Therefore, The Aviator is now a TV Show on DVD?

Yes and No.

If you want to discuss the Aviator DVD set in reference to the Howard Hughes Modern Marvels Special, it is a discussion of a TV Show on DVD. But since the Modern Marvels is less than 50 minutes long, it is more bonus feature since it's not even a third as long as the feature film.

The Chuck Jones special is 90 minutes long. The Looney Tunes cartoons are 7 minutes long. In this boxset, Chuck Jones is the feature. You get 60 cartoons and then a feature length TV special kicks in.

The nature of the Howard Hughes DVD also comes into play. While you can buy a copy of the program from Amazon - it doesn't have a real cover. Just the generic A&E cover for all their "If you like this show, send us $25 offer." The Chuck Jones one does have a real cover and is distributed by Warner Home Video - the folks that are putting out this boxset.

As I said, this DVD set is part TV show/part Theatrical (although theatrical shorts is more like it). Don't panic like when Gomer Pyle couldn't figure out where a sneaker fit in his Quartermaster system. Something can belong on two different shelves.

Keith Paynter · 07-12-2007, 12:25 PM

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Say, while you folks continue to have this stupid and pointless argument about whether 7-minute cartoons are actually movies (which they aren't)

Since they were first shown in movie theaters I would refute that statement. Are you saying anything less than 80 minutes shown in theaters (apart from trailers) isn't a movie? Pixar would take umbridge with that - what about their debut short "Tin Toy"? Spielberg made lots of short home "movies" as a kid. Depending on how old you or your parents are, there's probably lots of 5 minute 8mm home "movies" in your closets or attics.

The whole problem with this arguing begins with the very first post. The link is to Gord's TVShowsOnDVD site. With all due respect to Gord, the LT, Woody Woodpecker and Popeye collections have no business being referenced on his site. Any television materials on these sets are purely supplemental, and not representative of the original nature of these shorts. There is no mention on the site of the Droopy box set. They are cut from the same cloth.