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12-18-2006, 09:18 AM
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Ron Braun
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
I'm a long-time lurker in the forums but had to weigh in on this issue. Though I'm totally against the replacement of music or messing with the original episode at ALL, I'll admit that if the first season came out I'd buy it either way - especially if it had bonus features! Hopefully, if there is an interest and if we're vocal about the issues we have with the editing, the next season will be improved. A lot of "if's" there, I know.
If you want to chuckle at our pain, check out this comic strip about the WKRP issue at toon-it-up.com.
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12-18-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
Threshold is one thing - standards etc.
However, as mentioned, a complete un-changed edition - all music intact is not realistic.
So having fantasies about it, are just that, fantasies. So (again as mentioned) we can hope that the retain the most significant pieces of music, as that is the only realistic option.
Just because something is possible in one manner (technology) does not mean that it is possible in other manners (legal).
Unless the music-dvd situation is legally changed soon, whatever comes out in April will be the only version you can choose to own.
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12-19-2006, 10:18 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
[Just because something is possible in one manner (technology) does not mean that it is possible in other manners (legal).
Unless the music-dvd situation is legally changed soon, whatever comes out in April will be the only version you can choose to own.[/quote]
Exactly my point, so everyone either buy it or don't. I still feel that something is better than nothing, and for those who are boycotting in hopes that Fox will get the message and eventually release WKRP totally uncut and without any music substitutions, it is a fantasy. It will never happen with all of the bean counters over at Fox..
Dan T.
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12-19-2006, 11:50 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
Some songs cannot be licensed no matter what.
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12-20-2006, 07:01 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
Very true. For example, I don't think it's the case now, but for a long time it was simply not possible to license any Beatles recording, for any amount of money. The answer was always simply a flat "no."
"Half of the time we're gone and we don't know where."
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12-20-2006, 08:50 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
Everyone out there who loves WKRP, if you can afford it, do us all a favor and just go out and buy it!
That way at least we have some form of the show preserved..
Dan T.
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12-20-2006, 11:14 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
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What would be preserved is only two things - a horrible mockery of a great show, and enormous profits for dvd makers who don't need to bother securing music rights cause people would buy it anyway. I'll gladly pay hundreds of dollars for any uncut seasons that make it out, but not one penny for music replacement crap.
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12-20-2006, 11:21 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
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a horrible mockery of a great show
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So, the syndicated versions people have been watching for thirty years are mockeries? If you haven't watched it since it aired in the 1970s, how do you know it's a great show?
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enormous profits for dvd makers who don't need to bother securing music rights cause people would buy it anyway.
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I highly doubt they'll be making enormous profits, given the constant failure of the other MTM shows to make a profit.
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Really? You'd pay, say, $300 a season?
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12-21-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: Enough already Fox. Are we EVER going to see WKRP released?
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So, the syndicated versions people have been watching for thirty years are mockeries?
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Again, it's all about thresholds...If you never saw the originals, you wouldn't necessarily know or catch the music replacement or the cut scenes. And though there's still lots to enjoy in the syndicated versions, for those of us who saw and remember the originals, it just doesn't cut it. My thereshold is different than George's, so I probably wouldn't use that term to describe them, but I won't pay money for syndicated copies. That's not to say that's what will be released - it'll be something in between that and perfect representations of the originals. For me, it'll depend on where the released shows end up on that line between and whether they cross my threshold.
Kind of like whether or not you care about the original 2.0 soundtrack for Superman The Movie. I'm not a fan, so I likely wouldn't even notice. However, if you scan the thread about it, apparently many people do care...
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If you haven't watched it since it aired in the 1970s, how do you know it's a great show?
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What?! Speak up sonny! My old and frail ears can't hear you dagnabbit! Damn memory's goin' too...Sorry, what was ya sayin'?

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