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10-11-2006, 09:59 AM
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New Carson Collection?!?
[Moderators: Sorry. This should be in the Software/TV forum.]
It looks as if the trustees of the Carson estate have decided to issue a new (?) collection of Tonight Show material from the Carson years.
Retailers are showing a release date of 11-7-2006. I checked the official Carson site and the 3-disc set IS listed there for purchase $39.99. Amazon's pre-order is $27.99. Costco: $24.99
The only question which remains: what is the material that will be included? I would fork over $30 for new Carson material in a flash...but how much will be different from what was already included in the original Ultimate Collection?
Here is the description (as vague as it is) posted at the official site:
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Introducing, The Best of Carson Volume 1 -- a brand new 3 DVD collection featuring over 4 hours of hilarious highlights from three decades of The Tonight Show! The Best of Carson features the biggest names in entertainment history, classic Carson characters, and stand-up comedy from the best in the business!
Each disc in this collection ALSO includes a cherished bonus extra including: a special photo gallery featuring rare, never before seen photos of Johnny from the early days to his Tonight Show final farewell.
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Volume 1 - 3 DVD Collection
Includes NEVER before seen footage!
Features 30 years of hilarious highlights from The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson. Bonus Extras include: Return to Studio One, Tonight Show Memories and Never Before Seen Photos!
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"Return to Studio One" is a separate release from the Carson company of a single show from 3-6-1969 which is a classic episode including Bob Hope, Dean Martin & George Gobel fron NYC.
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Original Tonight Show telecast never before available! This classic "lost" episode is regarded as one of the most hilarious in television history. Johnny and his guests had no idea what was in store for them when Bob Hope and Dean Martin dropped in unannounced. The unrehearsed antics that followed are now a part of show business legend.
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"Tonight Show Memories" is another prior release from the Carson vault:
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For three decades, The Tonight Show ruled late night TV and Johnny Carson was the King. Condensed from the 3 volume Johnny Carson Collection, this best of the best DVD will bring back all of your favorite memories from The Tonight Show.
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So, if they comprise 2 of the 3 discs, it is tough to say, at this point, if the 3rd disc is also going to be re-hashed material and if this is just a re-packaging of material we've already seen.
With all the wealth of material in the Carson vaults, it sure would be nice if they developed some kind of regular release program of material...even if it was just some of the anniversary specials.
You've got to figure that the audience for such material is huge...and more than ready to spend good $$$ on quality product (maybe even not-so-quality product...but it's gotta be new).
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-11-2006, 02:27 PM
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Re: New Carson Collection?!?
I cannot WAIT to see this!!! The Ultimate Collection is one of my (AND my parents!!!) favorite DVDs!
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10-12-2006, 08:46 AM
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I just wish the Carson estate would try to work out some deal to get the complete shows back on TV on one of the cable channels. You'd think this would be a great on, say, TV Land at 11:30pm?!
Heck, I'd even settle for them re-syndicating the old "sketches-only" half-hour Carson's Comedy Classics.
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10-12-2006, 12:03 PM
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Heck, I'd even settle for them re-syndicating the old "sketches-only" half-hour Carson's Comedy Classics.
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Not me. I avoided those shows like the plague. While I enjoyed Johnny's skits as part of the 90-minute and 60-minute shows....I didn't think they held up well by themselves. For me, the whole point of the Tonight Show was the monologue, the desk segment with Ed, and the spontaneous banter with the guests.
Those are the segments that make the compilation discs valuable for me.
The skits were funniest when they got screwed up (much like how sometimes the monologues actually got better when they bombed!). When Art Fern's moustache fell off, or Johnny and Fred Holliday would start cracking up...
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-12-2006, 08:38 PM
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I'm with Mike. I never cared much for the "comedy classics" shows for the reasons he articulated. Ed's announcement that the "Mighty Carson Art Players" were in the line-up were usually a cause for a groan during the last few years. Even Art Fern suffered after the death of Carol Wayne.
Carson was at his best when interacting with others and he was genius at letting his guests shine. Perhaps Carson Productions could fashion themed collections (Legendary Comedians, Actors, etc.) I don't know what kind of music rights issues there would be surrounding getting Buddy Rich, Pete Barbutti, etc. included but a music themed collection would be wonderful.
Count me in for putting the show on the air again. The drivel that passes for late night entertainment these days almost makes me want to cry.
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10-12-2006, 09:07 PM
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Even Art Fern suffered after the death of Carol Wayne.
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Time for a gratuitous Carol Wayne shot:
There was just something about her... 
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-13-2006, 05:11 PM
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Time for a gratuitous Carol Wayne shot:
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10-14-2006, 12:15 AM
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I don't know when that shot is from but by the 80s she really began to look bad. All of the cocaine had taken it's toll. She also met a horrible ending, drowning in Mexico while with the same guy who was with Art Linkletter's daughter when she mysteriously went out a window.
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10-14-2006, 01:01 AM
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I understand that releasing the musical performances would be a licensing nightmare but why hasn't the Carson estate been assembling classic interviews on disc ? I have the previous huge box set that came out and it didn't add up to nearly as much as you might think. Each disc only had a small amount of material compared to what they could have held. Good stuff, but only the tip of the tip of the iceberg where the Tonight Show is concerned.
Why oh why aren't they releasing more of this stuff ? How about more comedians compilations ? Or "best of" discs organized by year ? I know the early years of Johnny's reign apparantly don't exist anymore but what about the 20 or so years of material that still does ?
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10-14-2006, 05:10 AM
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Re: New Carson Collection?!?
Someone mentioned Fred Holliday. Who exactly is Fred Holliday?
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10-14-2006, 12:19 PM
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Someone mentioned Fred Holliday. Who exactly is Fred Holliday?
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He is this guy:  Sorry, but its the best picture I can find.
He dabbled as a talk show host in the 70s and was one of Johnny's regular foils in the various skits he did. I suppose most often you'd see him as a member of the press when Johnny was doing his Reagan impersonation. He was also the counterpoint in Johnny's riff on the Who's On First routine when he, again, was playing Reagan (Fred was advising him on an upcoming meeting with foreign dignitaries) and the punch line was "Yasser" (as in Arafat) and he thought Fred was saying "Yes, sir". That skit is on the Ultimate Collection discs.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-14-2006, 12:21 PM
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I understand that releasing the musical performances would be a licensing nightmare but why hasn't the Carson estate been assembling classic interviews on disc ? I have the previous huge box set that came out and it didn't add up to nearly as much as you might think. Each disc only had a small amount of material compared to what they could have held. Good stuff, but only the tip of the tip of th | | |
