|
|
 |
|
08-28-2006, 04:58 PM
|
#1 of 382 
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Local Time: 07:21 PM
Local Date: 12-02-2008
Posts: 433
|
Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
Since no one has dropped this bomb yet, I'll go ahead and get the thread started. Star Trek fans, make sure you're sitting down and then read this:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html#082806
Its like Star Wars all over again. |
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:09 PM
|
#2 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Local Time: 02:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 2,046
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
All i can say is im glad i own the 60s series on dvd, since there going to mess with it on hd dvd and whatever other format.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:17 PM
|
#3 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 1,218
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
It's not "like Star Wars all over again." They're not inserting extraneous material and new scenes; it sounds like they're just cleaning up or reshooting the exterior spaceship shots, which never looked clear because they're process shots. It's not like JarJar Binks is suddenly going to take over for Lt. Uhura...
My only gripe is, why didn't they do this BEFORE I spent $300 buying TOS on dvd??
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:35 PM
|
#4 of 382
|
|
Member
Location: The Atlantic Puppy-Grinding Company
Join Date: Feb 2006
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 540
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
I'm surprisingly not as bothered by this announcement as I originally was back in late 1997, when those other crappy CG-redux shots from "The Doomsday Machine" surfaced in various genre magazines like Cinescape.
When I first beheld the space battle sequences in Enterprise's "A Mirror Darkly" two-parter, I was suddenly -- and unexpectedly -- excited by seeing a model-quality TOS-era Constitution-class starship blazing away and kicking massive amounts of ass on the screen in a way they never could've done in the 1960s, and began wondering if something like this was in fact in the works for the rest of the original episodes.
That was some amazing FX work, and it looked LIGHT-YEARS better than those shitty earlier tests. Color me still cautious, yet slightly optimistic about this.
Last edited by joshEH : 08-29-2006 at 11:11 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:43 PM
|
#5 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 07:21 PM
Local Date: 12-02-2008
Posts: 4,481
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
Oh boy could this be a can of worms...
While some of the old FX indeed looks dated, wome still looks fab and the fact that they used "real models" as oppossed to CG...
hmmm....
And if they crop it to 1:78...???
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:52 PM
|
#6 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 186
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
If they MUST do this, then I hope it will at least look like it COULD, maybe, possibly have been done in 1968, given the time and money. (the effects guys should just watch 2001 over and over).
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 05:56 PM
|
#7 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Local Time: 06:21 PM
Local Date: 12-02-2008
Posts: 942
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
The thing that excites me the most about this news is that if CBS will actually spend the time and money creating all new CGI shots for the original series, then perhaps they'll also go back to the original elements of "The Next Generation," "Deep Space Nine" and "Voyager" and allow those to be re-edited in HD.
Oh, and CBS, anything other than OAR is unacceptable.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 06:13 PM
|
#8 of 382
|
|
Member
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Join Date: Jul 2002
Local Time: 04:21 PM
Local Date: 12-02-2008
Posts: 2,608
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
I was at the same panel as Bill and some enhanced CG had been done by one fan who had redone the first act of "Doomsday Machine" as a demo reel.
R.I.P. DVDSpot 
Last edited by Paul McElligott : 08-28-2006 at 06:17 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 08:12 PM
|
#9 of 382
|
|
Member
Location: Merseyside, England
Join Date: Oct 2000
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 1,028
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
Well... yes... far from being "one of the best kept secrets in Hollywood" this idea was at least discussed and demoed several years ago, just after the broadcast of DS9's "Trial And Tribbilations" if I'm not mistaken...
And...
Well it SUCKS quite frankly. I don't want my TOS messed around with, nor my TNG, DS9 or VOY for that matter. If this is the price we're gonna have to pay to see these episodes "upgraded" to HD then they can shove 'em!
The "Enhanced Trek" clip created by the fan (see previous post) is fine and nice and novel and works "okay". But it's NOT how these episodes should look! We've had these arguments before with Star Wars, you know the rest...
Looks like the decision to take advantage of Amazon's price cuts on the DS9 DVDs has been made for me! :-)
JR
Jerry Goldsmith
1929-2004
C'mon Warner Bros - either default to the HD soundtrack or give us some proper audio options in a traditional disc menu like every other studio. Having to interrupt the movie to select the HD track is totally unacceptable.
Last edited by John H Ross : 08-28-2006 at 08:21 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 08:26 PM
|
#10 of 382
|
|
Member
Join Date: Nov 1998
Local Time: 07:21 PM
Local Date: 12-02-2008
Posts: 4,947
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
I totally disagree with you John. Your Trek is already out and available for you to view.
A tastefully done reworking of exterior space shots for the original Trek would be fine with me. As long as the OAR and live action scenes are not monkeyed with - go for it.
The work done on the Enterprise episode and by the fan are great.
Every man is my superior, in that I may learn from him.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 08:50 PM
|
#11 of 382
|
|
Member
Location: Merseyside, England
Join Date: Oct 2000
Local Time: 12:21 AM
Local Date: 12-03-2008
Posts: 1,028
|
Re: Star Trek in HD - with revised special effects?
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma
I totally disagree with you John. Your Trek is already out and available for you to view.
A tastefully done reworking of exterior space shots for the original Trek would be fine with me. As long as the OAR and live action scenes are not monkeyed with - go for it.
The work done on the Enterprise episode and by the fan are great.
|
Why are you so protective of OAR? Why are you setting parameters of what is okay to "monkey" with and what is not? It's either OAR and as originally broadcast (i.e. with all the correct effects shots intact), or it's not.
I mean, what's next? Replacing the Gorn with a more convincing CGI monster? Sigh...
JR
Jerry Goldsmith
1929-2004
C'mon Warner Bros - either default to the HD soundtrack or give us some proper audio options in a traditional disc menu like every other studio. Having to interrupt the movie to select the HD track is totally unacceptable.
Last edited by John H Ross : 08-28-2006 at 08:52 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
08-28-2006, 09:00 PM
|
#12 of 382
|
|
| |
