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08-18-2004, 05:33 AM
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"Movies should be like amusement parks. People should go to them to have fun." - Billy Wilder
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08-18-2004, 06:52 AM
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This is a great thread. I am making it a "sticky"
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08-18-2004, 07:02 AM
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I mean, are you going to boycott an entire show because an episode or two is missing a few seconds?
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george k, I like your response to this. You say so much with so little! But I think I will just end up noting that all PAL DVD's are time-sped at the bottom of the first post.
Also, I think the "R&B" bug in the corner of every episode of Rocky & Bullwinkle season 1 (any word on if it will be there in the next set?) does, in fact, belong in this thread. Not only because it's a variation from the broadcast, but because it blocks part of the picture and it created quite a stir.
Thanks for making this "sticky", Ron. It promises to improve when I finally get time to update it again!
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08-18-2004, 03:42 PM
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 series) Volume 1:
There is a part in the first episode where the original video is replaced by the commercial bumper video. (I hope that makes sense, I'm not sure how to describe it.)
Also, in another volume of this series, there is a missing recap. (I don't have this volume, but I remember it being discussed.) The VHS version apparently did have the recap that was missing on the DVD.
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08-18-2004, 04:19 PM
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george k, I like your response to this. You say so much with so little!
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I don't know about that! I mean, George, I want all of my TV shows (and especially MOVIES) uncut. No doubt about it. But in the case of something like LOST IN SPACE, there's just no way I'm going to pass up 83 hours of entertainment because seven seconds of that 83 hours are missing! And when there is no other alternative but to see NONE of it? That sounds really extreme to me - and I ought to know, as I'm usually pretty extreme myself about things like this! Not this one, though. |
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08-18-2004, 06:10 PM
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Well I'd be hard pressed to think of a situation where it would be acceptable for me. Part of it is intent though. If something was unavailable because it had been lost years ago, and there's no way to find it, that's OK. But when producers are just to damn cheap to pay for the music rights? Then I put my foot down. Love Wiseguy, won't buy it. Love MTM, won't buy it. Now, I would actually buy uncut portions. So, for instance if MTM released season 2 uncut, then I'd buy that, even though I passed on season 1. But Wiseguy I've just written off.
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"Subtitles good. Hollywood bad." - Tarzan, Sight & Sound 2012 voter.
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08-18-2004, 07:34 PM
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I don't know about that! I mean, George, I want all of my TV shows (and especially MOVIES) uncut. No doubt about it. But in the case of something like LOST IN SPACE, there's just no way I'm going to pass up 83 hours of entertainment because seven seconds of that 83 hours are missing! And when there is no other alternative but to see NONE of it? That sounds really extreme to me - and I ought to know, as I'm usually pretty extreme myself about things like this! Not this one, though.
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Well, there are alternatives to just giving up on something because they screwed up one or two episodes of a series. Find a copy of the show that's out there in collectors circles with the missing footage. Then you can satisfy your desire to have the thing complete, although it won't be of the same quality, and you don't have to pass on the 99% of the series that is complete and in its proper form. That's what I am doing with the I Spy series. I have LP VHS copies from when they ran complete in Washington in the early 80s as well as the Image DVD set. I will time the episodes on each set and the ones that are incomplete on DVD, I will transfer from the VHS. Its annoying but there's no need to throw out the baby with the bath water. |
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08-18-2004, 10:57 PM
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I'm not so picky when it comes to things like time-sped DVDs. I'm just glad that NTSC DVDs in general are not time-sped. I like it when we can get the product closest to the way it was originally seen or originally intended to be seen by the creators/directors/producers.
I won't boycott a time-sped DVD, but when it comes to something like mostly replaced music or all syndicated versions of episodes, you can bet your life I will not waste my money.
I used to like watching the Twilight Zone marathons on the Sci-Fi Channel, but after I've had my uncut episodes from Image -- I can't even watch it on the air anymore. The only thing more they could give me would be all the original bumpers and Serling's previews of next week's episodes for every episode when the season sets are released in December and in 2005.
As far as replaced music goes, maybe okay if one or two songs slip through the crack, but not much more. For instance, The Wonder Years tops my list for most wanted TV DVD that has not been announced... but I will not buy it if major music replacements are made. I'm sorry, but it's a period piece (like Freaks & Geeks), and the music is integral to the plot (think "The Circle Game" by Joni Mitchell as used in Episode 27 "Mom Wars").
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08-19-2004, 02:44 AM
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With music replacements it's important for me that the changes are officially sanctioned, maybe even chosen by the producers and music supervisors. That's why I can live with the changes on Roswell and Dawson's Creek (although the replacement of "I don't wanna wait" from season 3 onwards still pisses me off a bit).
And to further add to the thread: The ER sets have all the "previously on ER" recaps removed.
Incidentally: How about Smallville? Did the episodes have "previouslies" when they aired? And how about Dark Angel? Neither of those shows have them on the DVD. (I don't know about Dark Angel Season 2 though, which is currently somewhere between Canada and Germany  ).
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