Hawaii Five-O - Any Interest Out There? - Page 11

Corey3rd · 07-26-2007, 11:13 PM

well for those who ponder if there aren't kids who are stupid enough to hang themselves comes this is from www.dunndailyrecord.com

7/26/2007 2:07:00 PM

The Choking Game: What Parents Should Know

Steve Reed
Reporter

The hanging of a 10-year-old boy in Dunn has created new awareness of "The Choking Game."

The boy remains in critical condition at UNC Hospitals in Chapel Hill after hanging himself Tuesday at his East Canary Street home. Authorities believe it is possible he was playing the game.

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Jeff# · 07-27-2007, 01:21 AM

Hanging itself is a horrible way to die.....however....in the context of FICTION I feel cheated watching an old TV show or movie in which the crime is only implied and not shown. It isn't too gratuitous to see a western with a dead man swinging from a noose when the trap door opens. A manniquin was an affordable way to achieve that effect. Yet the act itself was not shown even in the later years of GUNSMOKE.

That's as lame as pre-ratings code film made during a time when scenes of extreme violence and sex were not allowed.

A realistically portrayed film is one that tells the story best. For example: James Caan being shot down by multiple machine gun fire in "The Godfather". Francis Ford Coppola accomplished that using squibs.

As for the sex, if Jean Harlow or Marilyn Monroe had been allowed to do nudity and the equivalent of an "R" bedroom scenes back in their day, their films would have been even better. Leaving some things to the imagination is fine for old-time radio, but old movies from the same period suffer the test of time in comparison. After all, Marilyn had posed nude several times in magazines. She could have been the "Kari Wuhrer" of her era.

Hank Dearborn · 07-27-2007, 07:53 AM

There have been far, far worse things depicted in movies and television shows since this episode aired almost 40 years ago. Remember in the movie Fuzz where they showed a bum being set on fire and then there were copycats of that? That movie isn't censored. And wasn't there a film about 7,8 years ago from Disney no less that had a scene of some imbecile football players laying down on the lines in the middle of a highway which some morons copied? I'm sure if I thought about it I could come up with a dozen instances of idiocy shown in the movies or television that have been tried by stupid people in real life. Hell, I remember some kid in third grade poking me in the eyes with his fingers like the Three Stooges. The point is, stupid people are going to do stupid things and even if you censored everything they would still get the ideas from somewhere. And it's one thing not to broadcast a show because of those fears but quite another to not even let people view it on a DVD.

Corey3rd · 07-27-2007, 09:40 AM

"The Program" no longer features the scene of highway chicken. It was proven that all of the idiots that decided to play that game did it after watching the ad on TV at bars and parties. They never saw the complete movie.

It's easier for a movie with such a stunt to stay in circulation because once you vault a movie, it earn zero cash. However yanking a single episode isn't going to destroy the bank accounts of the TV shows producers and distributors. Judging from the reviews of how bad the acting and script was for the episode, the idea of being able to lose "Bored" might not have met too many protests.

GlennH · 07-27-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff#

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As for the sex, if Jean Harlow or Marilyn Monroe had been allowed to do nudity and the equivalent of an "R" bedroom scenes back in their day, their films would have been even better. Leaving some things to the imagination is fine for old-time radio, but old movies from the same period suffer the test of time in comparison.

One man's opinion. Not universally shared.

MatthewA · 07-27-2007, 11:39 AM

There's an easy solution to this:

Parents doing their freakin' jobs.

Seriously, what kid today has even heard of Hawaii Five-O? Any kid who is smart enough to have heard of a forty-year-old crime drama is smart enough to distinguish fiction from reality.

Corey3rd · 07-27-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewA

There's an easy solution to this:

Parents doing their freakin' jobs.

Seriously, what kid today has even heard of Hawaii Five-O? Any kid who is smart enough to have heard of a forty-year-old crime drama is smart enough to distinguish fiction from reality.

Who wants to be the 'perfect child?' we all have our stupid and daredevil moments. And for some people it pays off royally. I remember standing in X Games Legend Dave Mirra's huge training complex, staring at his car collection and pondering the sad thought that if I hadn't listened to my mom and jumped over the pit on my bike, I too could have made fat dollars. Or lost all my front teeth.

And as a friend once pointed out when people die doing stupid stuff: How else do we expect to thin the herd?

Remember "don't try this at home" is merely seen as a dare instead of a true warning.

Steve...O · 07-27-2007, 10:25 PM

This DVD set is not being marketed to kids and I would suspect the buying demographic will heavily skew to those north of 30 years old. There is no valid reason that CBS/Paramount would need to "protect" anyone by holding back an episode. People who are going to pay $35 - $45 for a Hawaii Five-O DVD set aren't likely to be the same ones doing stupid stunts that endanger their lives.

Almost lost in this discussion is the other disturbing blurb that's apparently on the package about some episode possibly being edited. Are there any obvious edits on this set? I sincerely hope Paramount isn't going to start dumbing down their product.

Steve

Jeff# · 07-27-2007, 11:56 PM

Cigarette advertising was banned from American TV and radio in 1971.
Yet in spite of that there are even more people on this planet today who make up the smoking population, and therefore more acquiring and even dying from lung cancer. I'm not a smoker, but everyone is well aware of the risks....yet they still do it because they are addicted.

Limiting the depiction of broadcast TV violence in a fictional way won't prevent it in real life. Adolph Hitler killed millions of people, yet there was no television in his time and movies from that era were mostly unrealistic and tame. Bottom line....if "Bored She Hung Herself" exists and CBS / Paramount has access to the episode, it will turn up in a later DVD volume.

Mister-Mike · 07-28-2007, 10:33 AM

If there are edits in the season two shows, it won't be the first time this has happened. There were also some edits in the Columbia House VHS tapes, as outlined on my WWW site:

http://www.hawaiifiveo.info/columbia-house.htm

In the pilot episode ... McGarrett is being "conditioned," submerged underwater while Wo Fat and others look on. A scene that's cut out of the Columbia House version [same as the version in the season one DVD box set] has McGarrett cursing out Wo Fat, and fantasizing about other things. McGarrett speaks (after he's been in the cocoon for about 7 hours) to Wo Fat, saying that "Mr. Wo Fat goofed" and that he can hear; then Wo Fat confirms this to the technician. That whole sequence is missing. On the other hand, this original pilot has a completely different beginning and end titles than the two-hour movie (or two-part episode) usually broadcast as well as scenes near the beginning where McGarrett enters the Iolani Palace and where Chin Ho makes his first appearance. These, and the exceptional colour of the print make this a must-have item for all Five-O fans.

Another cut occurs in the beginning of "Over 50? Steal!", when Filer has hit the small jeweler, and has set up the binoculars for McGarrett to see him at the phone booth across the street, Che finds a "big fat thumbprint" on the lens of the binoculars. McGarrett says, "All this junk and we got one thumbprint?" but that line is cut out of the Columbia House version. Che says his line, and they cut to another scene.

In "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave", the conversation in Hawaiian between Mondrago and Akea is omitted.

"Nine Dragons," my favorite episode, suffers from a mediocre print in the Columbia House edition. There are scratches throughout, and some major damage like in the scene where McGarrett bids farewell to the Chinese girl Suzie and at the end where Wo Fat is watching his handiwork on the TV monitors. I don't understand why this print is so bad, when Viacom distributes a version of this show to TV stations which seems to have "Family Channel"-style revamped color and doesn't have these flaws.

RickER · 07-28-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister-Mike

If there are edits in the season two shows, it won't be the first time this has happened. There were also some edits in the Columbia House VHS tapes, as outlined on my WWW site:

http://www.hawaiifiveo.info/columbia-house.htm

In the pilot episode ... McGarrett is being "conditioned," submerged underwater while Wo Fat and others look on. A scene that's cut out of the Columbia House version [same as the version in the season one DVD box set] has McGarrett cursing out Wo Fat, and fantasizing about other things. McGarrett speaks (after he's been in the cocoon for about 7 hours) to Wo Fat, saying that "Mr. Wo Fat goofed" and that he can hear; then Wo Fat confirms this to the technician. That whole sequence is missing. On the other hand, this original pilot has a completely different beginning and end titles than the two-hour movie (or two-part episode) usually broadcast as well as scenes near the beginning where McGarrett enters the Iolani Palace and where Chin Ho makes his first appearance. These, and the exceptional colour of the print make this a must-have item for all Five-O fans.

Another cut occurs in the beginning of "Over 50? Steal!", when Filer has hit the small jeweler, and has set up the binoculars for McGarrett to see him at the phone booth across the street, Che finds a "big fat thumbprint" on the lens of the binoculars. McGarrett says, "All this junk and we got one thumbprint?" but that line is cut out of the Columbia House version. Che says his line, and they cut to another scene.

In "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave", the conversation in Hawaiian between Mondrago and Akea is omitted.

"Nine Dragons," my favorite episode, suffers from a mediocre print in the Columbia House edition. There are scratches throughout, and some major damage like in the scene where McGarrett bids farewell to the Chinese girl Suzie and at the end where Wo Fat is watching his handiwork on the TV monitors. I don't understand why this print is so bad, when Viacom distributes a version of this show to TV stations which seems to have "Family Channel"-style revamped color and doesn't have these flaws.

Columbia House just used what they got. Course who knows why they had swaped reels on an episode of the Gunsmoke DVDs they put out. I have not heard of any edits on these DVDs. I think its a case of CYA. Cause you never know.

Kenneth V · 07-29-2007, 10:27 PM

Is everybody positive that "Bored She Hung Herself" is not included? In the ads for Best Buy and Circuit City they say it includes 25 episodes. Don't you think they would have switched the ad?