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02-20-2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
You can email Criterion and let them know the reason that you're not purchasing this DVD set. That will send a message.
This DVD is a "holdover" anyway... it's the 1080p Blu-ray Disc where we really have to worry, bcs that would be the definitive version and possibly the last release for a LONG time. Criterion needs to get the message now so they can work to help bring this out in its original OAR on Blu. Maybe they could help convince a certain someone that large-screen HD home-theater is more like "theater" than it is like "home video".
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That's what I'm thinking as well, but is there something more effective than just an email? I guess a handwritten letter might be somewhat more effective (or maybe do both).
While a big/major studio will ignore a handful of letters, maybe Criterion (due to its much smaller/niche market) might take notice if a good number of us did write them.
BTW, does anyone significant at Criterion monitor HT/film forums like HTF? They probably at least monitor their own forums, no?
Personally, I'm fine w/ just passing on this DVD set -- and maybe go for the R2 PAL version for now, if the eventual BD will take a long while yet. What concerns me more is the eventual BD (as David points out as well). I've waited this long for a good version of TLE, I'm fine w/ waiting another couple years or so if that eventual BD will be a good one w/ the correct AR.
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02-20-2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
E-mail just sent to Criterion at their "suggestions" address:
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Hello.
I would like to request an HD release of The Last Emperor on Blu-ray disc.
I have been waiting for a quality release of this title for quite a long time. While I realize that you have a 4-disc SD version to be released February 26, I will likely NOT be buying it due to the revised aspect ratio at which it has been transferred by Vittorio Storaro.
Mr. Storaro believes that all 2.35:1 films should be released to the home market with an aspect ratio of 2:1. I do not agree. This is a film which won the Oscar for cinematography in 1987 with a 2.35:1 image. I would like to see a beautifully-restored version of that original image in my own home....not a version which has been cropped (even if Mr. Storaro was involved in the creation of the original work).
Is there any chance that a future Blu-ray release of The Last Emperor might have the full 2.35:1 image?
Thank you.
Mike Frezon
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02-20-2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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Originally Posted by Peter Neski
Well other than Ladyhawk ,which for some reason is out in 2.35:1
I think most of his other films which one would want on new Dvds films like
"Spiders Sradegen""Last Tango in Paris""Luna""Little Budda" ect.
arent 2.35;1,
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Well how good would a 2 disc Criterion version of Last Tango in Paris be?
The Current MGM DVD is horrendous. SURELY Criterion could do a better version of that. They could've gone all out - new I.P. off the negative. Get Storaro to time it however he wants.
But DON'T crop it from 1.85:1 to 2:1.
I think that Last Tango should've been their back up plan in case Storaro didn't agree to release Last Emperor at 2.21:1.
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02-20-2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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Originally Posted by Simon Howson
Option 1: Insist that the film be released at a 2.21:1 ratio, preserving the 70mm release format
Option 2: Not bother releasing the film. There are thousands of other films they could've released.
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Both of these options ignore the filmmakers wishes (right or wrong), either directly or indirectly, and that goes against some of the reason why Criterion is so revered.
Blu-ray & HD DVD - It's all about the movies!
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02-20-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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Originally Posted by Chris S
Both of these options ignore the filmmakers wishes (right or wrong), either directly or indirectly, and that goes against some of the reason why Criterion is so revered.
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Criterion could've re-issued Last Tango in Paris instead.
Having said that, I have some vague recollection that MGM were going to release a Special Edition version.
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02-20-2008, 09:28 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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...in case Storaro didn't agree to release Last Emperor at 2.21:1.
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Simon: did I err in my note to Criterion by referring to TLE as a 2.35:1 film? Why are you saying 2.21:1? Is that what actually gets seen in the theaters when a 2.35:1 is shown? 
I should have paid closer to attention to the dialogue between you & Doug.  Or, maybe less! 
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02-20-2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
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Originally Posted by Mike Frezon
Simon: did I err in my note to Criterion by referring to TLE as a 2.35:1 film? Why are you saying 2.21:1? Is that what actually gets seen in the theaters when a 2.35:1 is shown? |
No you didn't err. It was released 2.4:1 on 35mm prints, and slightly cropped on the sides to 2.21:1 for 70mm prints. If you look at the un-cropped image, it looks like Storaro was protecting for the 2.21:1 70mm format, because such prints would've been used for the film's premiere.
I just think that 2.21:1 would've been a reasonable compromise for Criterion and Storaro to agree on. Whereas 2.00:1 makes no sense whatsoever.
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02-21-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: Statement concerning THE LAST EMPEROR (Criterion Collection)
The DVDFile review and he was disappointed as well....
DVDFILE.com
Last edited by JonZ : 02-21-2008 at 10:02 AM.
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