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10-17-2004, 01:55 PM
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I will profess ignorance of the deleted Brando scene -- all that I know is how that moment impacted me as a ten year old. It certainly was a surprise *to me*, and I was filled with wonder and joy. Roger Ebert said he felt Superman II was actually better than the first Superman. I won't go that far as an adult, because I see the scotch tape and the cut corners -- I may be wrong, but it sure sounds like someone was trying to do a voice-over Hackman impersonation in the hot air balloon sequences, i.e. "North, Ms. Techmacher, North!" -- but as a ten year old, Superman II was one of the great movie experiences of my young life.
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10-17-2004, 08:05 PM
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As long as nobody takes it into their head to destroy Richard Lester's "official" version of the picture, I see no harm, in fact I see a fascinating opportunity to compare two versions of the same movie. I loved the first three Superman pictures and I'm very pleased with the copies I have. I would certainly buy a Special Original Director's Edition of Superman 2. I think it would be common courtesy to ask Dick Lester in to perhaps provide an audio commentary commenting on how his version differs to Dick Donner's, and maybe get an idea of why the Salkinds handed the picture over to him.
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10-17-2004, 10:17 PM
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larry, i saw most of the movies, i saw, when i was a kid at the budco orleans when it was a twin theater, (only 2 screens, 8 now i think).
and it is a good chance i saw superman 2 there myself.
for me, superman 1 and 2 are one continued movie.
i always watch them together, and they are on my list of favorite all time movies.i developed my opinion on "2" long before i ever new about what happened with richard donner. it still doesnt change my feelings on the film
i would like to see what donner would have done if he had completed the movie.
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10-18-2004, 07:18 AM
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I would certainly buy a Special Original Director's Edition of Superman 2. I think it would be common courtesy to ask Dick Lester in to perhaps provide an audio commentary commenting on how his version differs to Dick Donner's, and maybe get an idea of why the Salkinds handed the picture over to him.
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I doubt Lester wants to go on the record.
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10-18-2004, 07:52 AM
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I doubt Lester wants to go on the record.
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Now that Warner called him on his bull, probably not. But then again, Gary Kurtz ate his words and sold out to Lucasfilm for the recent Star Wars Trilogy documentary, so who knows... |
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10-18-2004, 07:58 AM
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One thing I dislike about Superman II that had nothing to do with Donner or Lester (though Donner's firing is what caused it) is not having John Williams back but instead tracking his music from the first one (ie, one that particularly bugs me is playing the music from Superman's journay to Earth over shots of him picking flowers for Lois Lane. Know this is only something that bugs me due to repeat viewings, but the more I watch it, the more it bothers me.
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I agree completely. Ken Thorne has made some effective contributions to other films, but his arrangements of John Williams' music for Superman II just do not sound right. Even when I was younger and liked the second film better, I always thought the music sounded tinny and poorly orchestrated.
I don't know of the logisitcs of this, especially with John Williams' somewhat busy workload (he recently voluntarily pulled out of the 4th Harry Potter film because he was working on too many other projects), but I would love to hear him rescore Superman II. Of course, his style has kind of evolved over the years, but I've noticed his last few scores have started sounding more and more like his work from the '70s and early '80s, so it might just work. Just some thoughts.
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10-18-2004, 03:19 PM
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As much as I would love it, I think the odds of John Williams writing a full score for a direct-to-video project are...well...
Let's put it this way. How many times has he done it in the past?
I think the very best we could ever get would be Williams writing/arranging some music and letting some other composer do the rest of the work.
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10-18-2004, 03:24 PM
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Maybe if it got a theatrical release....
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