North By Northwest Restoration for 2009? - Page 2

Mark Anthony · 03-06-2007, 02:16 PM

VV is stilll used very occasionally for effects work, but digital compositing has effectively rendered multi-generational celluloid effects null and void and taken the need for >35mm SFX photography with it.

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Jack Theakston · 03-06-2007, 05:20 PM

Obviously while you cannot project it (and never were supposed to), 8-perf is almost always the output for VV archival elements. The whole point of VV in the first place was to create a finer grained WS image. Surface area does not have anything to do with it-- it is preserving the original format in which the film was shot in.

Paul Borges · 03-06-2007, 06:13 PM

What about films like Gone with the Wind, or Wizard of Oz? Do those ultra resolution results have high enough resolutions to be printed satisfactorily to film?

Patrick McCart · 03-06-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Borges

What about films like Gone with the Wind, or Wizard of Oz? Do those ultra resolution results have high enough resolutions to be printed satisfactorily to film?

Of course. There's a really silly misunderstanding that older films are low-res. I saw a 1998 dye-transfer print of The Wizard of Oz and it looked amazing. While it looked a tiny bit grainier than the average modern film, the level of detail was stunning. As great as the recent UR remaster is, it only gives a hint of how great it looks on 35mm.

The UR remasters for GWTW and Oz are 4K (which means they'd look amazing on 35mm). Most of the prior UR remasters are 2K (including the color Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies).

RolandL · 03-07-2007, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston

Obviously while you cannot project it (and never were supposed to), 8-perf is almost always the output for VV archival elements. The whole point of VV in the first place was to create a finer grained WS image. Surface area does not have anything to do with it-- it is preserving the original format in which the film was shot in.

There were a few theatres that did have VistaVision projectors. They use to have a VistaVision projector in Williamsburg - http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/Wide...liamsburg1.htm

DanMel · 03-07-2007, 07:30 AM

Perhaps the Hanging tree will be released in 2009 for it's 50th anniversary and also be released in SD and HD as it was not included in the Gary Cooper box set because it was in need of restoration. It would be nice if two of my favorite movies in The Hanging Tree and North by Northwest were released on the same day for their 50th anniversaries.

Jack Theakston · 03-07-2007, 09:34 AM

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There were a few theatres that did have VistaVision projectors. They use to have a VistaVision projector in Williamsburg

They were the expception to the rule, however.

Mark Anthony · 03-07-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Theakston

Obviously while you cannot project it (and never were supposed to), 8-perf is almost always the output for VV archival elements. The whole point of VV in the first place was to create a finer grained WS image. Surface area does not have anything to do with it-- it is preserving the original format in which the film was shot in.

Which is why outputting to 65mm is the preferred choice, it has no picture quality deficiency, it's a format currently viewable in several locations worldwide, including many IMAX theaters, which by any stretch of the imagination VV isn't and never really was and 70mm prints can be created from it without further optical manipulation which if a fresh VV element was created, it would require optical printing to standard 35mm suitable for projection.

Aside from brand loyalty to a format that never really took of as it was meant to, despite it's obvious strengths, I fail to see any logical reason why the possibilty of a new 65mm cleaned up negative for one of Hitchcock's greatest film's is cause for anything but jubilation!

Besides our resident Mr Harris has created new 65mm negatives from a 35mm 8 perf original on the two occasions he worked with the format - on Vertigo and Spartacus, if it's good enough for him, Kubrick, Hitchcock's estate and Universal...

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Moe Dickstein · 04-06-2007, 04:21 PM

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Douglas Monce · 04-20-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Anthony

Besides our resident Mr Harris has created new 65mm negatives from a 35mm 8 perf original on the two occasions he worked with the format - on Vertigo and Spartacus, if it's good enough for him, Kubrick, Hitchcock's estate and Universal...

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Spartacus was filmed in Technirama, which is also an 8 perf 35mm format, but it uses a Delrama anamorphic attachment during the photography, which VistaVision doesn't. Technirama could be printed to 35mm scope or 70mm. When printing to 70mm it was billed as Super Technirama 70.

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Haden · 03-03-2008, 12:27 AM

Resurrecting this thread a year after it started to see if there's any news on the rumored special edition for next year.

I can't remember if it was confirmed that another HTF chat with Warners would happen this year, but if one is planned I hope somebody remembers to ask about this title.

Robert Harris · 03-03-2008, 06:26 AM

Williamsburg: The Story of a Patriot is currently being screened in Colonial Williamsburg, VA in 70mm prints derived from restored VVLA master elements.

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