True Romance 2-discs SE...Dialogue cut?

Voranand · 11-23-2006, 07:28 AM

sorry if it has been discussed before...searched...nothing comes up...so...

Researched all of Quentin Tarantino's films for every alternate versions. Surprised to see this at IMDB:
In the first release of the Unrated Director's Cut on DVD in the US, Clarence's "I'd fuck Elvis" speech is the original version as he talks more in-depth about a particular scene in Jailhouse Rock. In the re-release of the Unrated Director's Cut (in the 2-disc special edition), some of the dialog from Clarence is cut.

Is this true? I checked the original script. There's amount of dialogues certainly *not* on the new SE but the question is.. why anyone bothered to cut a few dialouges from the old release for the new one? Doesn't make any sense.

Voranand · 11-25-2006, 07:32 AM

^Bump^

Can anyone confirm this?

Kareem · 11-26-2006, 11:18 PM

Maybe Tony Scott changed his mind about the dialogue?

I think the only other film I've heard of that actually got SHORTER for a director's cut is Blade Runner.

Tony's taking after Ridley, I guess.

Voranand · 11-27-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kareem

Maybe Tony Scott changed his mind about the dialogue?

...or IMDB report is wrong. I certainly hope for the latter. I just hope Quentin's fans here can confirm this.

BTW, both are director's cuts. And both are DVDs. One has more dialouge than another. Weird.

Adam Santangelo · 11-27-2006, 12:07 PM

Sitting here at work, I could recite Clarence's whole "Jailhouse Rock" speech off the top of my head... and I don't recall any of it being missing in the director's cut (which is an amazing release for fans of the film, btw... I would've killed for some of those extras during my Tarantino heyday).

Anyway, I could very well be wrong. It's been a while since I watched the director's cut, and even longer since I had any reason to dig out my theatrical cut laserdisc.

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Jon Martin · 11-27-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Voranand

Is this true? I checked the original script. There's amount of dialogues certainly *not* on the new SE but the question is.. why anyone bothered to cut a few dialouges from the old release for the new one? Doesn't make any sense.

Often, the published script is different than the film. With TRUE ROMANCE, Tony Scott probably didn't use all of QT's dialogue, but the script was from an earlier version.

This is very common.

I don't remember there being a lot of talk about JAILHOUSE ROCK in any of the versions of the film, and I have no idea where my copy of the script is.

I'd just say that the film is complete, but the script added dialogue that didn't make the final cut.

Voranand · 11-27-2006, 02:00 PM

Ok. For the convenience of you guys. Here's the whole dialogue in the script:
"In "Jailhouse Rock" he's everything rockabilly's about. I mean he is
rockabilly: mean, surly, nasty, rude. In that movie he couldn't give a fuck
about anything except rockin' and rollin', livin' fast, dyin' young, and
leaving a good-looking corpse. I love that scene where after he's made it big
he's throwing a big cocktail party, and all these highbrows are there, and
he's singing, "Baby You're So Square... Baby, I Don't Care". Now, they got
him dressed like a dick. He's wearing these stupid-lookin' pants, this
horrible sweater. Elvis ain't no sweater boy. I even think they got him
wearin' penny loafers. Despite all that shit, all the highbrows at the party,
big house, the stupid clothes, he's still a rude-lookin' motherfucker. I'd
watch that hillbilly and I'd want to be him so bad. Elvis looked good. I'm
no fag, but Elvis was good-lookin'. He was fuckin' prettier than most
women. I always said if I ever had to fuck a guy... I mean had too 'cause my
life depended on it... I'd fuck Elvis."

And Clarence's speech in new 2-discs SE.
"In "Jailhouse Rock" he's everything rockabilly's about. I mean he is
rockabilly: mean, surly, nasty, rude. In that movie he couldn't give a fuck
about anything except rockin' and rollin', livin' fast, dyin' young, and
leaving a good-looking corpse. I'd watch that hillbilly and I'd want to be him so bad. Elvis looked good. I'm no fag, but Elvis was good-lookin'. He was fuckin' prettier than most women. I always said if I ever had to fuck a guy... I mean had too 'cause my life depended on it... I'd fuck Elvis."

Now I know the dialogue has been cut differently for different versions. That's not the question. The question refered to IMDB report.
"In the first release of the Unrated Director's Cut on DVD in the US, Clarence's "I'd fuck Elvis" speech is the original version as he talks more in-depth about a particular scene in Jailhouse Rock. In the re-release of the Unrated Director's Cut (in the 2-disc special edition), some of the dialog from Clarence is cut."

I find it really strange if true. Can anyone confirm this?

Adam Santangelo · 11-27-2006, 02:06 PM

Ah, sorry, I misread the original question. If you find an answer, please let us know here.

Vincent_P · 11-27-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Santangelo

Anyway, I could very well be wrong. It's been a while since I watched the director's cut, and even longer since I had any reason to dig out my theatrical cut laserdisc.

Wasn't the laserdisc also the unrated director's cut? I could've sworn it was...

Vincent