Anyone done side by side comparisons of the 2 new versions of Fulci's Zombie yet?

Anthony*B · 08-11-2004, 01:47 PM

I got 'em both but haven't had the time to sit down & compare yet...I probably don't have good enough equipment to do a fair comparison anyway

..I did watch some of the extras on the Shriek Show disc, though...many many great interviews w/ surviving cast/crew members of this seminal piece or italo-hardcore horror...

TomF · 08-11-2004, 02:10 PM

Here is a site/discussion thread that does a side-by-side with screen shots:

horrordvds.com

Looks like Shriek Show's may be the better of the two...

Michael Elliott · 08-11-2004, 02:29 PM

I've watched both and I personally think the SS disc looks better. I watched the BU version last week and thought the transfer was pretty bad. I didn't comment on it because I wanted the see the SS version first. The BU disc to me just seems way too bright and there are many digital artifacts throughout the film. Another problem on the BU disc is some very dirty scenes towards the end that are a lot cleaner on the SS version.

I then took another look at the AB version and I actually prefer this to the BU disc. If the BU version has the "look" Fulci was going for then that would be one thing but considering how dark is other "gore" titles are, the SS seems correct.

The BU disc also features some dialogue that's not mixed correctly so it plays out of order. I forgot the check the SS disc for this though.

Pat Donoh · 08-11-2004, 03:11 PM

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The BU disc to me just seems way too bright and there are many digital artifacts throughout the film.

Are you sure you didn't get your discs mixed up? Because the SS is even brighter than the BU, throughout the entire film. Artifacts? Where?

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If the BU version has the "look" Fulci was going for then that would be one thing but considering how dark is other "gore" titles are, the SS seems correct.

Again, BU's brightness is at a more conservative level than the SS, which I believe is a good thing, and is likely closer to Fulci and Salvati's ideals. You must have got your discs mixed up.

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The BU disc also features some dialogue that's not mixed correctly so it plays out of order. I forgot the check the SS disc for this though.

Same deal on both discs. That'll give them something to fix next time around.

Anthony*B · 08-11-2004, 03:47 PM

wow, a lot of opposing opinions already

...i checked out part of the film on BU's disc last week & thought it looked terrific (albeit surprisingly bright as mentioned)...as noted before though, I don't have incredible equipment to review with (Samsung TXM3096 + Zenith DVB318), so YMMV...
The strange thing that I've been noticing lately about my opinions of DVD transfers of previously ratty-looking horror films is that they look amazing, perhaps OO AMAZING

know what I mean? these films scared & entertained me so much during the VHS halcyon days in the 80's & 90's, & it's almost shocking to see these titles so clearly & cleanly! it is agreat time to be a fan of rare & obscure horror, but sometimes the kid in me longs for those days of watching my ragged Wizard video copy of Zombie in my mom's living room on a little 19" color TV & having the s**t scared out of me

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Michael Elliott · 08-11-2004, 03:52 PM

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Are you sure you didn't get your discs mixed up? Because the SS is even brighter than the BU, throughout the entire film. Artifacts? Where?

Nope.

If you look at the screenshots at www.horrordvds.com it looks pretty simple to me. The blood alone looks a lot better on the SS version and to me, the BU version looks just like the "colorless" HALLOWEEN from Anchor Bay. The film looks way too light IMO. If this is how it was supposed to look then fine but to me it seems a bit faded or washed out. Another thing that caught my eye was the shot of the jeep when they are about to enter the house and find you know who. Another one I noticed is the look of the mud when the zombies are coming out of the ground towards the end. The look of wormface just doesn't look right to me on the BU disc.

The BU disc is a "great" transfer but it just doesn't look "right" to me. Again, it could be right and my eyes just aren't used to seeing it this way.

As for the digital artifacts, check out the scene where the four are leaving to start their little voyage. The blue background is crawling with artifacts. This is very clear to see anytime the camera is moving and there's blue water or the blue sky in the background. Later I'll give some times to go with these examples.

At another site I reviewed several SS titles and I was always amazed at how much better they looked when viewing on a widescreen set. Often time, I'd give their transfers 3/5 when I viewed them on a 4x3 set but when I got my widescreen set I bumped the grade up to a 4.5/5 on some of them. There's always going to be a difference when you can view these anamorphic but I've never known/noticed such a jump in quality when it comes to SS.

Will*B · 08-11-2004, 05:02 PM

Personally, I think they both look incredible compared to the AB version. If you look at how much extra detail is revealed (particularly in dark scenes and shadows), it's obvious that there's no way the AB version is anything close to what Fulci and Salvati wanted. There are extra zombies even!

Also, the new versions restore footage and have better framing revealing more at the left and right of the screen. Who could refuse that?!

JeremySt · 08-11-2004, 06:06 PM

I ordered the Media Blasters version. Is this the Shreik Show version? Hope I didnt order crap.

Pat Donoh · 08-11-2004, 06:16 PM

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The blood alone looks a lot better on the SS version and to me, the BU version looks just like the "colorless" HALLOWEEN from Anchor Bay.

OK, I follow you... and actually those are some of the same reasons why I prefer BU's presentation.

As a matter of personal taste, I thought the blood in the SS version looked slightly too "Argento" -- too vivid -- and that dark scenes were too well exposed for a Fulci film in the beginning of his "dark" period.

Still, I'm thrilled to finally have a decent DVD of this film.

James D · 08-11-2004, 06:29 PM

Jeremy-Media Blasters is SS. You ordered the right one.

MarcoBiscotti · 08-11-2004, 06:42 PM

I must be blind, but I don't see any screen captions for the SS version posted via the above link...

I can see the Blue Underground and Anchor Bay comparissons just fine, am I alone with this?

If someone could point me in the direction of some decent screen grabs from the new SS release, it'd be much appreciated. I planned on ordering sometime this month but with questions arising regarding a/v quality in comparisson to the Blue Underground release, I'd love to take a look for myself...