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Old 05-27-2004, 09:24 PM   #1 of 25
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Fox's The Young Master -- Misframed?


I just got through watching the new Fox release of Jackie Chan's The Young Master, and was rather dismayed by the transfer. For one thing, it's the grainiest of the Fox martial arts releases so far. (Plus there are various scratches and bits of dirt, including what looks like a hair during the big fight at the end.) I checked it against the Universe DVD and while that is a far from perfect transfer (it's non-anamorphic to start with and it's soft and indistinct), it doesn't have the grain issues of the Fox DVD. I wonder what shape the source print for the Fox DVD was in? The Fox DVD, despite the grain, has a lot more detail than the Universe DVD.

However, even more problematic is the issue of framing. I noticed right away that it looked too tight at the top -- heads were being cut off. One shot that looks really bad is at 66:49, when Lily Li, during her fight with Jackie, stands up and straightens her skirt. On the Fox DVD, at the top of the frame her head is cut off in the middle and at the bottom you can see a bit of floor below the edge of her skirt. On the Universe DVD, you can see her entire face with just a tiny smidgeon of the top of her head cut off (it looks fine). And at the bottom her skirt meets the edge of the frame, no floor showing.

Most of the time the misframing isn't that awful or even noticeable on the Fox DVD, although in some shots it is quite obvious. Maybe it's just certain shots, not all of them. I didn't do a scene by scene check (that would require me switching DVDs back and forth and I'm just too lazy). But maybe someone with a double set-up can do a more thorough comparison.

I don't suppose Fox would agree to a re-issue a la Universal with Back to the Future and Pillow Talk...
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:36 PM   #2 of 25
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I don't suppose Fox would agree to a re-issue a la Universal with Back to the Future and Pillow Talk...


Only if a lot of people complained about it. (Or if Jackie Chan complained about it.)
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:39 PM   #3 of 25
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>Only if a lot of people complained about it.

Uh... I was being facetious. I don't think we'll be seeing a replacement.
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Old 05-27-2004, 10:28 PM   #4 of 25
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Paula -

This is the only Fox release I haven't watched yet. I think I also have the Universe DVD so I will compare the two.

Fortune Star provides the material for these DVD's so Fox is just distributing what they get. I doubt that they will reissue this title but it would also mean that other releases in different regions would have the same problem.

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Old 05-28-2004, 10:34 AM   #5 of 25
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Paula

This is a little off topic, but how much did you pay for YOUNG MASTER. To date I've gotten all thte FOX releases in the Wal-Mart dump bins (Canada and U.S.) or at Super K (U.S.) for $5.00 - $5.50. Just wondering if this batch is still in that range as I'm dying to get my hands on the incredible OPERATION SCORPIO at a good price.
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Old 05-28-2004, 04:07 PM   #6 of 25
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Compared to the HKL version, the Fox DVD of Young Master is definitely cropped too tightly at the top of the frame. A few heads here and there are cut in half, and the multi-screen sequence at the end of the film suffers as well.
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Old 05-28-2004, 09:24 PM   #7 of 25
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I'm disappointed to hear this. I was looking forward to picking this up and was expecting it to look as great as their other releases.

Anyone know how OPERATION SCORPIO looks?
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Old 05-29-2004, 02:39 AM   #8 of 25
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Has anyone been able to find the new batch of Fox/Fortune Star DVDs? I checked WM, Kmart, Target, BB, CC, and did not find any of them. I'm sure they have them at Suncoast or similar, but I'd like to get them at the $5-$6 range Hopefully they'll show up soon....
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Old 05-29-2004, 07:14 AM   #9 of 25
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Brian -

I let FOX know that a lot of places seem to not have the newest wave yet.

Chris -

Operation Scorpio looks really good. I should have the review for that up over the weekend.

I am going to e-mail my contact at Fortune Star to let them know about the misframing. I already sent one for FOX. Fortune Star should fix it before it releases the Jackie Chan Box set in December (Region 3 or 2, I don't remember).
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Old 05-29-2004, 06:43 PM   #10 of 25
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I got a response from Fortune Star already. They will look into the framing issue.

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