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Old 04-19-2004, 01:52 AM   #1 of 64
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I hope that we can accumulate some support on this post, so the studios hear us. I have always been saddened that the studios tend to leave DTS out on most classic movies, while they have the room to use it. My favorite catagory is musicals, and I would say there are only a small number in my collection of over 50 musicals (maybe 2) that have a DTS track. Even later musicals, such as XANADU, BEST LITTLE WHOREHOUSE, EVITA ect....have no extras so there is room. The fidelity on older movies is not the same as it is today, but we all have our favorite movies, and no doubt that DTS is the ultimate in available soundtrack delivery. From what I have read there would be slight differences in tonal quality and warmth to the classic magnetic stereo soundtracks. In my opinion, I would gladly pay a few dollars extra, since obviously the studios cost to use DTS raises somewhat in fees.

We have some costly restoration happening in movies like King of Kings, Khartoum, Mary Poppins, Molly Brown, even Superman, you would think that after all that effort, the studios would want them to sound as good as they could.

So I urge the studios that release movies like Ten Commandments, Ben Hur, Sound of Music, Hello Dolly!, Guys and Dolls, Sweet Charity (restored beautifully), and the wonderful library of Hollywood to start using DTS.....anyone else agree?
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:23 AM   #2 of 64
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I have no complaints with the Dolby tracks on any of the titles that you mentioned.

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Old 04-19-2004, 12:00 PM   #3 of 64
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I have no complaints on some of these soundtracks either, but DTS is always an improvement, and wouldn't you want the best you could have?
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Old 04-19-2004, 12:17 PM   #4 of 64
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but DTS is always an improvement


No.

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and wouldn't you want the best you could have?


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Old 04-19-2004, 12:18 PM   #5 of 64
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I have no complaints on some of these soundtracks either, but DTS is always an improvement, and wouldn't you want the best you could have?

DTS isn't always an improvement!



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Old 04-19-2004, 12:25 PM   #6 of 64
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well, to quickly respond, to my ears, there is always, without question for ME, more of a balance and lack of compression sound when I listen to a dts track. I was stating an opinion not a fact when I said DTS tracks sound better. I guess here, you have be very specific in word. (so much for the support of my post hehe). My real drive here was for the studios to see that we would like the choice for personal taste.
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Old 04-19-2004, 12:33 PM   #7 of 64
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My real drive here was for the studios to see that we would like the choice for personal taste.

Geez, such a request has never been made on this forum before today.





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Old 04-19-2004, 12:43 PM   #8 of 64
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I guess here, you have be very specific in word.

That's always a good idea, in any context. But particularly here, where you're wading into an area that has been debated endlessly for years on HTF.

If any consensus has developed among informed people, it's that the differences sometimes heard in DTS tracks are attributable to the mix, not the coding scheme. In one blind test using the same master encoded in both DD and DTS, there were minute audible differences in the codecs, but no one could say that one was superior to the other. The discussion can be found here.

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Old 04-19-2004, 12:43 PM   #9 of 64
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Crawdaddy: So you're saying this is brought up often? Sorry for repeating something that has been brought up often, I have only been a member a short time so have not yet had time to go back, find, and respond to those posts instead. In any case, it seems there are people who are happy with the DD tracks alone, and in many cases, so am I. But in some cases where they really take the time on a soundtrack like the awesome Khartoum, King of Kings, or Rogers and Hammerstein films, it would be nice to select DTS, especially when it is a special edition, that's when I feel short changed. When they take disc space up with what seem to be some very worthless extras and could have had the room.
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Old 04-19-2004, 01:36 PM   #10 of 64
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This is probably gonna just turn into anoher DD vs. DTS thread, but for what it's worth... I usually prefer DTS for newer movies because I usually like the mix better. However, for older movies I don't feel like there'd be much difference seeing as how old the audio samples are, but whatever...





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Old 04-19-2004, 01:42 PM   #11 of 64
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it would be nice to select DTS, especially when it is a special edition, that's when I feel short changed. When they take disc space up with what seem to be some very worthless extras and could have had the room.

It might be nice to you, but others might prefer the extras, and you can't presume that your preferences are what should be followed.
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Old 04-19-2004, 02:42 PM   #12 of 64
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