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Matt Czyz
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
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05-28-2008, 10:54 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
Looks good. Maybe a bit too golden, but that's probably the way it's supposed to be.
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05-29-2008, 12:47 AM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
The new one looks much better, more like what was intended. I can't wait to see the restoration, but would it KILL Paramount to leave the original logos alone? Jeez Louise, it's not like if you say "A Gulf + Western Company" the universe will implode!
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05-29-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
The color looks like it might be bleeding in thise captures of the new transfer. Probably just the capture software.
I really do hope we see a Blu-Ray release this year and not just a cynical SD DVD only wallet-teaser.
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05-29-2008, 01:14 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
It feels like the golden tint is pushed too far in some of those shots--like its being made to look like a film stock thats faded or had its color go wonky. I'm curious just what their reference is for the color grading. I know Gordon Willis gave advice over the phone, but it just feels slightly too stylistic, rather than the ugly, harsh naturalism I'm used to seeing (unlike Godfather II, which was highly stylised).
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05-29-2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
When I viewed a 35mm answer print of this restoration with Robert Harris, Allen Daviau, and Gordon Willis in attendance back in March, Willis said the color was "dead on", and according to the American Cinematographer article which is linked somewhere around here, Harris and co. used a vintage I.B. Technicolor print that Willis approved as the color timing reference. The screen shots posted reflect what I saw in that restored 35mm print that Willis was so happy with.
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05-29-2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
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The new one looks much better, more like what was intended. I can't wait to see the restoration, but would it KILL Paramount to leave the original logos alone? Jeez Louise, it's not like if you say "A Gulf + Western Company" the universe will implode!
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Two things: keep in mind that this restored version has received limited public screenings, and as such, Paramount is entitled to reflect the current status of the company when its product is released or re-released to the public. Second, Paramount is not the most egregious offender on this front (can anyone say MGM? They'd change corporate logos on video releases every time they possibly could). Warner has also changed logos on several of its titles (Blade Runner comes to mind).
\"My opinion is that (a) anyone who actually works in a video store and does not understand letterboxing has given up on life, and (b) any customer who prefers to have the sides of a movie hacked off should not be licensed to operate a video player.\"-- Roger Ebert
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05-29-2008, 07:30 PM
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Two things: keep in mind that this restored version has received limited public screenings, and as such, Paramount is entitled to reflect the current status of the company when its product is released or re-released to the public. Second, Paramount is not the most egregious offender on this front (can anyone say MGM? They'd change corporate logos on video releases every time they possibly could). Warner has also changed logos on several of its titles (Blade Runner comes to mind).
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The film is supposed to look like it looked in 1972. In 1972, Viacom was a government-mandated spinoff of CBS-TV that sold I Love Lucy reruns to local stations. There is nothing legally to stop them, but that doesn't make it right.
MGM is worse and WB is problematic, but for this prestigious film it bothers me. It's not a deal breaker, just a blotch on what promises to be a stunning restoration.
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05-29-2008, 11:13 PM
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Patrick J. McCart
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
For the American BluRay and DVD editions, I really just ask for...
- No overdone noise reduction
- Original Paramount logos (nitpicky, but they ARE part of the original film)
- Both original mono and the 5.1 remixes
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05-29-2008, 11:35 PM
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
The only time I really take issue with the changing of the logos is when the logo is an integral part of the film itself and not merely something tacked on to the beginning of the movie to identify the distributor. Warner in the late 60s and early 70s would actually overlay the logo on the beginning of several films, including Clockwork Orange and The Omega Man. Now, if something were to be done to those logos, I'd be pissed, but the logo change on The Godfather would have happened back in the 90s, when it was rereleased. Since the Gulf + Western logo would not accurately reflect ownership of the distributor, Paramount was within its rights to change it.
I agree that it would be nice to have all original logos on films, but with a lot of films changing ownership several times in the last few years, unless the logo is an integral part of the film, grousing about original logos amounts to nitpicking. There are bigger fish to fry, like DVNR and original audio tracks, not to mention that we still have to keep on top of OAR from time to time.
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05-30-2008, 09:00 AM
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Joel
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Re: Paramount to re-do "Godfather" DVDs
You'd think that if they were going to plaster the Paramount logo, FFC would've at least used the new "mock 60's" one from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull since that one's at least somewhat historically accurate.
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