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Old 07-31-2003, 12:32 PM   #1 of 44
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Jaws Anniversary Edition vs. DTS Edition


A few weeks ago, I purchased the Jaws "Anniversary Edition" DVD with the silver stripes on the top and bottom of the box cover, proclaiming it was Universal's Widescreen version; however, I had a feeling there was another version of this film with a DTS soundtrack, and like an idiot, bought the standard Anniversary Edition with a simple Dolby Digital soundtrack that sounds like ass; there is an OCCASIONAL surround effect or two; the rest of the sound is caught in the ENTIRE FRONT soundstage. Does anyone have the Jaws DTS version, and is it phenomenally better on audio?

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Old 07-31-2003, 12:37 PM   #2 of 44
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I'd be surprised if the DTS version was any better than the DD version. The movie was originally recorded in MONO.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:48 PM   #3 of 44
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Thank You Francois...

That makes sense; I cant help, though, to think that they must have done something significant in the DTS remaster to warrant another version to be sold...DTS, in my particular system, sounds TREMENDOUSLY better than standard DD...Fast and the Furious, U571, Gladiator---I can name numerous discs that sound much better in DTS than DD. So I was thinking Jaws would be much of the same improvement...
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:52 PM   #4 of 44
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I haven't heard the Dolby track, but I assume there isn't too much difference between the DTS and Dolby.
The worst part is that the original mono is not included on either version. The DTS (and I assume, the new Dolby) track has re-recorded sound effects that, if you're as familiar with the film as I am, really sound out of place. And the score is really the only thing that shows up in the surround channels. Like Scott mentioned, it's very front-heavy.
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Old 07-31-2003, 12:59 PM   #5 of 44
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Well, I've read numerous reports that the DTS is superior. It was the first DTS disc I ever heard, and the music blew me away. If the DD sounds weak, then I'd suggest trying the DTS one. It will never sound as good as a new 5.1 mix, but for a remixed mono track it sounds pretty impressive. I'd still have liked the original track included, but such is life.


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Old 07-31-2003, 01:12 PM   #6 of 44
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What is with everyone's fascination with old films' mono soundtracks? I have one DVD in my collection with such a soundtrack---The Amityville Horror--and I HATE it (the sound, that is)....everything coming from the center channel? Yuck! Why does everyone enjoy old films in mono?
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:14 PM   #7 of 44
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Eric,

What kind of sound effects on the Jaws disc sound out of place? Are they really that noticeable?
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:23 PM   #8 of 44
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Why does everyone enjoy old films in mono?

It may be incomprehensible to you, but some of us enjoy all time classics such as Citizen Kane, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Casablanca, Dr. Strangelove, and The Adventures of Robin Hood in their original sound format, and we happen to think that sound emanating from all six speakers is not the overriding basis for deciding how good a film is.
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:24 PM   #9 of 44
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What is with everyone's fascination with old films' mono soundtracks? I have one DVD in my collection with such a soundtrack---The Amityville Horror--and I HATE it (the sound, that is)....everything coming from the center channel? Yuck! Why does everyone enjoy old films in mono?

Because that is how the films were made and were meant to be heard. It's the same reason we want OAR. We don't *mind* an updated 5.1 etc. mix, as long as the original is included. Anyway, don't be fooled by Dolby 5.1 etc in many older films, they're usually not much better than mono, or maybe than stereo, and sound as fake/unnatural as early stereo music recordings. Dolby 5.1 means *up to* 5.1 discrete channels...one discrete channel falls under that description!
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Old 07-31-2003, 01:24 PM   #10 of 44
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The one that sticks out the most off the top of my head is Jaws busting through the cabin of the boat at the end. The glass breaking sounds quite different from the original track.

It's really not bad, just different. Someone who hasn't seen the film that much probably will not notice the difference. Someone who has seen Jaws many times like myself notices it right away.

And that's the biggest reason to include the original mono track is to hear the film as I've heard it many times before, without the "pumped-up" sound effects. That is how I came to love Jaws, and I would like to have that preserved. MGM's version of The Terminator did this correctly by including the new Dolby track with newly recorded effects, but also presented the mono track for history's sake if nothing else.


And ditto to what Robert and Craig said.



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Old 07-31-2003, 01:32 PM   #11 of 44
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