|
|
 |
|
05-10-2003, 07:30 PM
|
#31 of 43 
|
|
Michael Reuben
Administrator
Location: New York City, Lehman Bros. was here
Join Date: Feb 1998
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 19,771
|
Quote:
|
Simply because Cees said that the thread would likely turn in this direction, doesn't mean that he's psychic
|
Not psychic, just wise. The wisdom that comes with experience. 
M.
"Most people never have to face the fact that, at the right time and the right place, they're capable of anything." -- Chinatown
"What kind of movies would there be if everyone in them had to do what we thought they should do?" -- Roger Ebert
HTF Beginner's Primer and FAQ
|
|
|
|
05-10-2003, 07:34 PM
|
#32 of 43
|
|
John Williamson
Member
Location: On duty and takin' out the fullscreen trash.
Join Date: Mar 1999
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 10,740
|
 Well, with all due respect to Cees, Michael, one doesn't need much experience to know that a thread may turn...one merely needs to be mildly observant. 
Cees is a wise man, no doubt about it, and his post was very funny, but in all honesty any one of us could have posted that really, if the inspiration occured to one of us to do so. Cees simply thought of it first that's all.
"There was that time I wanted to be an astronaut.
I wanted to be the first one to kill somebody on the moon."
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2003, 01:53 PM
|
#33 of 43
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 913
|
Quote:
|
And since when is bitching about something we don't care for such a bad thing? Hell, the forum is 85% bitching most of the time! Some people want the original artwork, let them state their grievences, there's nothing wrong with that.
|
I agree. I don't understand why mods get so upset when we criticize Paramount. If it's because a studio representative posts here, that's pretty ridiculous. We're not helping Paramount nor ourselves by sugar-coating every opinion we have on their product.
Their studio rep wants true opinions and feedback. Not 1000 love letters to Paramount with no real substance other than to not be offensive.
\"My advice to young film-makers is this: Don\'t follow trends. Start them!\" -- Frank Capra
|
|
|
|
|
05-11-2003, 02:33 PM
|
#34 of 43
|
|
Crawdaddy
Administrator
Location: Michigan
Join Date: Dec 1998
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 18,319
|
| I agree. I don't understand why mods get so upset when we criticize Paramount. If it's because a studio representative posts here, that's pretty ridiculous. We're not helping Paramount nor ourselves by sugar-coating every opinion we have on their product. |
Getting upset has little to do with it, but putting issues in their proper perspective is what the moderators are trying to accomplish with their comments. There is a difference between constructive criticism and just plain old "whining". In my opinion, whining reflects negatively on this forum and I know that opinion is shared by HTF ownership and the rest of the moderators.
Crawdaddy
G.W. McLintock: Camille, you're on your own.
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2003, 03:42 AM
|
#35 of 43
|
|
Cees Alons
Administrator
Location: Amsterdam, Holland
Join Date: Aug 1997
Local Time: 02:58 AM
Local Date: 11-19-2008
Posts: 18,266
|
Next post: "Be quiet! Criticizing the wheather can get you suspended."
Next post: "Why? What makes the mods so sensitive about the weather? Fearing the weather-gods? Phew, exactly like the first poster said: It's getting pretty chilly over here!"
Cees
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
05-12-2003, 04:18 AM
|
#36 of 43
|
|
Member
Location: Toronto area, Canada
Join Date: Nov 2002
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 1,941
|
Trevor, it wasn't personal, I'm just TIRED of people complaining about French on the COVER of something in an officially bilingual country. The cover is just that, a cover, it is not the substance. I never look at DVD covers after I've read them once. I really can't even imagine anybody studying their covers, so why would they download a new one. File the DVD in a normal rack, you can't see the cover, problem solved. Sure, if somebody only had 2 DVD's they might put them on the mantle or something, to show off to their friends who can't afford $50 for a DVD player, but I just don't see how a cover can be something so irritating that it had to be changed. It's my view that DVD's are NOT film movies, they are a different media, and I don't think they have to be like the movie, so different covers are acceptable. If film movies came with covers, I might have a different opinion...
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
05-12-2003, 05:29 AM
|
#37 of 43
|
|
John Williamson
Member
Location: On duty and takin' out the fullscreen trash.
Join Date: Mar 1999
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 10,740
|
Craig,
that is how YOU feel about the issue, it's not cool to slam others for not feeling the exact same way. Some people like looking at the covers, some don't.
Myself, I could care less if the original theatrical artwork is on them or not, just as long as they look decent enough.
There's all kinds here, why argue about it?
"There was that time I wanted to be an astronaut.
I wanted to be the first one to kill somebody on the moon."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2003, 02:08 PM
|
#38 of 43
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 913
|
Quote:
|
Getting upset has little to do with it, but putting issues in their proper perspective is what the moderators are trying to accomplish with their comments. There is a difference between constructive criticism and just plain old "whining". In my opinion, whining reflects negatively on this forum and I know that opinion is shared by HTF ownership and the rest of the moderators.
|
I agree that many whine and post ill-conceived posts on the matter, and that does little to help our cause. That's why I offer constructive criticism in my posts, as opposed to the childish "Paramount suks!!!!!!!" type posts.
However, one has to agree that if Paramount were completely doing their job to satisfy the DVD purchasers one way or the other, we wouldn't have to argue over any of the topics we criticize them for.
ADDED: And to those who say "cover art doesn't matter", it doesn't matter to the enjoyment of the film, no. Is Top Secret any less of a film because Paramount gave it embarassing cover art on DVD? No. If they'd actually changed something in the actual film, then the actual film would be affected. However, I firmly believe DVD is a collector's medium, and obviously others believe this too. Otherwise there would be no Home Theater Forum. To some of us who collect DVDs, cover art does matter. It may not matter to all of us, but to some it does. Will it make some people not buy a particular disc? Maybe. But that just goes down to personal preference. Everyone is different. We have certain likes and dislikes. If we don't like a disc's cover artwork, we have a right to not buy the disc and/or voice our opinion on the matter. What the rest of you must realize is that these are, in fact, opinions. Just because I say it's right doesn't make it so, and likewise, just because the rest of you say it's right doesn't make it so.
\"My advice to young film-makers is this: Don\'t follow trends. Start them!\" -- Frank Capra
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2003, 03:51 PM
|
#40 of 43
|
|
Crawdaddy
Administrator
Location: Michigan
Join Date: Dec 1998
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 18,319
|
| However, one has to agree that if Paramount were completely doing their job to satisfy the DVD purchasers one way or the other, we wouldn't have to argue over any of the topics we criticize them for. |
You're asking for an impossibility when it comes to satisfying DVD purchasers. Some will never be satisfy nor is it possible for Paramount to satisfy everyone to begin with. Personally, I'm more satisfied with Paramount now than I've been over the last five years with them. They have come a long way in their dvd presentations as well as pricing.
Crawdaddy
G.W. McLintock: Camille, you're on your own.
|
|
|
|
|
05-12-2003, 03:52 PM
|
#41 of 43
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2000
Local Time: 08:58 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 338
|
Bilingual cover art is a purely Canadian thing so the simple solution is to buy from the US. Problem solved. Done! I like what Paramount is doing as it reflects a very Canadian attitude. I always thought the great things about capitalism was the fact that we have a "choice". So exercise that choice. People form non-region one areas that are complaining about region one issues should take a step back and think for a moment about how lucky they are to even be able to purchase discs from another region. The mods are right lets get some perspective here folks.
\"You Ain\'t Been Doin\' Nothin\' If You Ain\'t Been Called A Red\" - Eliot Kenin, 1983
|
|
|
|
|
