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Old 05-20-2003, 01:24 PM   #31 of 63
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The Spitfire Fugue is not from Battle of Britain.
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Old 05-20-2003, 02:20 PM   #32 of 63
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The Spitfire Fugue is not from Battle of Britain.

Mark, happy to be corrected - I thought it comprised a large chunk of the music they'd cut out of the movie.
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Old 05-20-2003, 02:27 PM   #33 of 63
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The Spitfire Fugue is from William Walton's score for the 1942 film The First of the Few.



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Old 05-20-2003, 02:46 PM   #34 of 63
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Also, am I right in thinking that Walton was really annoyed by his music being cut from the movie? So much so, that he refused to do any more film work?

Ron Goodwin was (rightly) embarrassed by being asked to replace Walton's score (save for the four minute section Battle in the Air which, for me, is the highlight of the film).

Just before his death earlier this year, Goodwin was quoted as being delighted at rumours that the Walton score was to be restored to the forthcoming DVD release. Alas, that hasn't happened with the R1 release, and there is still no news of BoB on R2.

BTW my uncle (a Lancashire lad of true working class origins), was a navigator/gunner, first on Wellingtons and later on Stirlings, and holds the DFC. He can testify to the veracity of Deighton's Bomber. Towards the end of the war, aged 27, he was affectionately known to flight crews as 'grandad'.

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Old 05-20-2003, 02:53 PM   #35 of 63
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One of the best WWII aviation books I ever read was "The Big Show" by Pierre Clostermann. He was a Free French flier. There is an incredibly engrossing part where he had to do a belly landing in a Tempest.


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Old 05-20-2003, 04:46 PM   #36 of 63
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Well I picked this up at lunch over at Fry's: $9.99. I quickly ran through a few highlights using my small office set, and have a few remarks. More details will come when I screen this title tonight.

For reasons best known to themselves, the opening and closing credits have been changed - it's all new.

Even worst, the music over the closing credits has been completely changed from a rousing march to a placid, contemplative march. And the Churchill quote about "the few" has been replaced by another Churchill quote about "the end of the beginning", which has nothing to do about the Battle of Britain (it was recognizing the victory in North Africa much later in the war).

MGM is beginning to get on my "stuff-list". First a ratty squalid mess of Exodus: now a Battle of Britain with several odd and inappropriate changes. These were my two most eagerly awaited war titles.



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Old 05-20-2003, 05:08 PM   #37 of 63
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For reasons best known to themselves, the opening and closing credits have been changed - it's all new.

Even worst, the music over the closing credits has been completely changed from a rousing march to a placid, contemplative march. And the Churchill quote about "the few" has been replaced by another Churchill quote about "the end of the beginning", which has nothing to do about the Battle of Britain (it was recognizing the victory in North Africa much later in the war).


Damn stuff like this pisses me off. I've been waiting for this for a long time and now they screw the pooch on it.

Don't even get me started on the ugly ass covers MGM and Fox insist on using for these war titles. Were the original posters so bad?


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Old 05-20-2003, 08:27 PM   #38 of 63
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Have any Canucks seen this title in retail outlets today? I was unable to find it at FutureShop, Walmart or Costco...

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Old 05-20-2003, 09:22 PM   #39 of 63
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I could not find it in Halifax either.
Let me know if you find it.
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Old 05-20-2003, 10:13 PM   #40 of 63
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I have a CD of the William Walton Suite from The Battle of Britain (LPO Carl Davis, EMI CDC 7479442). From comparing this to the "new" closing titles music on the MGM DVD, I have identified the "new" closing title music as being the "March and Siegfried Music" from Walton's Suite.

The CD was recorded in 1987, and notes that the "March and Siegfried Music" was "previously unrecorded". This means that what MGM put on the DVD was NOT an unused recording made contemporaneously with the film but instead something cooked up recently.



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Old 05-20-2003, 11:35 PM   #41 of 63
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Not around here either. In fact, of all the stores I went to, only one store, a Wal-Mart, had any of the titles (most of them, in a display case), but not BoB and 633...got Blue Max and Bismarck, so not a total loss. Other W-M's had nothing.

In fact, of all the major releases for today, and there were a lot of them, many could not be seen around here, with Future Shop having the most of them. Best Buy, as usual, had almost none except the poppiest trash, nothing substantial. Shortages? Most stores around here were open yesterday, so it can't be the holiday...

Edit: Hmmm, I notice amazon.ca lists BoB/633 as Special Order now, besides the fact that they went up in price (as did almost ALL their discs) since yesterday. What happened overnight?
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Old 05-21-2003, 05:09 AM   #42 of 63
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We have plenty available over here! B of B has been a popular seller with region one collectors in the UK!
Im very disappointed to hear about the tampering with the music. I will not be ditching my WS Laserdisc now.....
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