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[ Antone received South Park commentary cd's yet? ]

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Old 01-24-2003, 06:04 PM   #31 of 180
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I spoke with Antone, and he hasn't received the CD yet!

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Old 01-24-2003, 07:32 PM   #32 of 180
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Well, for anyone who has newgroups access, all 13 episodes are available with commentary on alt.binaries.southpark


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Old 01-24-2003, 07:47 PM   #33 of 180
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Excuse me for being an idiot, but...

How the heck am I supposed to use this commentary CD if I ever get it? How will I reasonably be able to use it while viewing the episodes on DVD? How can I listen to a CD (in a separate CD player) on the same system at the same time? Listening to the commentaries on their own is a little too dumb for even an SP fan IMO, sure isn't the purpose of a commentary.

I couldn't figure this out, so I never sent away...I hope they give a credit to those who bought the original package when they upgrade it??? Considering the unfixed audio problems, "missing" commentaries, and now this, what a fiasco.
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Old 01-24-2003, 08:12 PM   #34 of 180
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Craig: Well, if you have a DVD-ROM drive and another drive of some kind that at least plays cds, you can play them both together. The commentaries start right when the actual episode does (immediately after the credits finish). Or, you can rip the commentaries to mp3 and then play them on your computer.

If you're trying to listen to them with your home theater setup, I guess it would get more complicated since you'd have to have both a DVD and a cd playing through your system. For my money, the best bet is just to try to download those DIVX copies that have the commentaries built in. They're really nice, I've listened to three or four commentaries so far...Matt and Trey are really informative, funny guys.


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Old 01-24-2003, 08:18 PM   #35 of 180
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Thanks Tom. Yeah, it would be on my HT system, there's not really any way to do it without an audio mixer...

I think the intros by Matt and Trey are at least as funny as the episodes, for some reason they really get me.

Edit: Just thought of a hack: could feed the CD player output into the TV's own speakers, which are normally unused, and then have a remote in each hand...
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Old 01-24-2003, 10:27 PM   #36 of 180
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How much more of an absolute joke can this become? When a company says, "Allow six weeks for delivery," they're NOT talking about from the time that they processed the check. Six weeks means that about six weeks after you send the check, you're supposed to receive it! Otherwise, how the hell else is the person at home supposed to know when the clock starts ticking? When they receive the check? When they cash the check? Those delivery times have the time for postage to and from built into it.

Comedy Central/Warner just completely messed up on this. Talk about a complete lack of professionalism. I mean, this is their job! This is what they're hired to do! And up and down the line, the legal department, the DVD department, Comedy Central, have managed to give everybody a little bit of insight into just why AOL Time Warner's stock is where it is - in the toilet. No, I'm not saying THIS is why AOL is so undervalued. But perhaps it's a clue as to how things are being run at there.

Let's not forget that the DVD itself is of very poor quality. I've seen South Park episodes in SVCD format that I doubt came from regular cable (if it did, it was the PPV special from last year). South Park can and SHOULD look WAY BETTER than it did on these discs. They just didn't want to go through the expense of remastering. Where are their priorities? Isn't South Park just about the only thing that's keeping CC afloat? Didn't they anticipate a HUGE DVD audience?

And let us also not forget the whole reason for this ridiculous commentary-on-CD fiasco. Matt and Trey said something so upsetting and disturbing on these discs that Warner felt compelled to take them off the DVDs. SO HORRIBLE were these comments that Warner couldn't even risk the idea of the eight-year-olds who only watch South Park ( ) hearing them and warping their fragile little minds! Well, Matt told us what their comments were about - the movie Contact (released by Warner). I listened to the "inappropriate" comments just now (Ep. 111 - Tom's Rhinoplasty) (from the MP3, no, I have yet to receive my CDs, even though the check was cashed more than a month ago)and here is what they said (*potential* spoilers ahead):

At about 7:05 of the track, Trey explains that it was "important" "to get across how bad the movie Contact really is and was." They explain how a bunch of people from the show were "super-excited" to walk down to the theater because they "thought it looked like it could be a really cool movie." But they didn't like it, and were "angry" about it, because "it's so bad, but you wait, even though, through all the suckyness and badness, you wait because you think, well, I gotta see what the aliens look like." But it turned out to be just her dad, and that left them "angry." According to Matt, "that was really when I really stopped liking Robert Zemeckis and Jodie Foster." Trey also thought that Castaway, another Zemeckis movie (released by Fox), and everything he's done since then, was "crap" as well. They both liked Back To The Future , but they thought that since then Zemeckis has "just gone off the f---in' deep end." He said that he got "Spielberg-itis", and warned people "Don't get near Spielberg, or you'll catch it."

What perhaps was more offensive than that (unless you're Robert Zemeckis) was when they later explained that Comedy Central took a joke about yeast infections out of a show(one of the few times, it seems, that Trey and Matt were overruled). They say it was because "most of our executives were women at the time, and they just weren't going to go for that," and that they couldn't get away with anything that had to do with "female hygiene," but that anything similarly related to men was just fine.

They also slightly made fun of David Hasselhoff, saying they were "embarrassed talking to him" when they ran into him, but really, it's David Hasselhoff, wouldn't you be?

So there you have it, folks. All this inconvenience and incompetence over nothing that was any more offensive than any of the subject matter contained in any sixth season episode. I haven't listened to all the commentaries, but of the ones I have, Matt and Trey are so tame you cannot believe something they said caused Warner to take away the commentaries.

If Warner/Comedy Central is serious about doing good DVD business for this show, they damn well better take their time with the second season and do it right: high quality transfers, REAL supplements (like behind the scenes), and, if Matt and Trey are willing to risk it, unedited commentaries that ARE ACTUALLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE FRIGGIN DVD!!

Thanks for reading my looong post.
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Old 01-24-2003, 11:05 PM   #37 of 180
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Actually, I have made disparaging comments about the quality of this release in various forums. There was such a complete lack of consideration in the production, such a total cash grab and product dump, that I had to say something. For now, I am unlikely to purchase any other CC or SP release unless they give some credit to prior purchasers of this disaster. I had the option to return this package, but chose to keep it...it would be nice if CC tried to win back some customer loyalty.

Hard to believe that commentary stuff was cut. After all, the intros make fun of people with certain sexual preferences, and of Native Americans, etc....I guess a yeast infection (which men also regularly get) is more offensive (but more fun to get).
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Old 01-25-2003, 12:09 AM   #38 of 180
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After hearing of the disappointing audio/video quality and the missing commentaries, I lost most of my enthusiasm for the SP season sets. The business about the commentary CDs only being available to U.S. residents was the last straw. I was intending to buy every single season as it was released, but not anymore. I don't want even one of them. I had bought Season 1, but I sold it a few days ago. It might be a pathetic little act of rebellion no one else will know or care about, but I'm doing it anyway. DVDs are supposed to entertain, not aggravate.

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Old 01-25-2003, 03:30 AM   #39 of 180
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Matt and Trey also make some not-so-flattering but oh-so-funny comments about Bob Saget and how they keep running into him after insulting him on the show or in print, but he always says "Hey, I saw that! It was great"...they just think he's a "douche"


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Old 01-25-2003, 04:26 AM   #40 of 180
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I wouldn't have bought this set if I hadn't seen it on sale for $24.95 and had a 10% coupon. After seeing the video quality, I'm still not sure it was a great deal. I realize South Park is no Ben Hur picture-wise, but the visual noise in the picture was definitely avoidable. I'm dowloading the commentaries. I'll order the actual discs if the look neat and anyone else actually receives them.


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Old 01-25-2003, 08:36 AM   #41 of 180
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Giving WB/CC the benefit of the doubt, I hope season 1 looks bad just because they used the existing transfers. Since none or most of the other seasons haven't been released this is there chance to do a better job.

btw, how do the R4/R2 seasons look and sound on DVD?
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