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Old 01-27-2007, 05:40 PM   #301 of 463
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Re: IT's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World Restoratiion


Then, would the movie be in 2.76:1 widescreen and the "Smilebox" would be in addition to that?
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:46 PM   #302 of 463
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"Smilebox" is an interesting means of presentation for home video, and would make a pleasant addition as a second disc.

RAH

Well, that would show you how it appeared in a Cinerama theatre. But, only the three-strip films are true Cinerama and should be shown in the Smilebox process on DVD.



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Old 01-27-2007, 07:01 PM   #303 of 463
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Re: IT's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World Restoratiion


Now I'm confused ... of the "story" Cinerama movies, I thought only "Brothers Grimm" and "How the West Was Won" would need to be smileboxed, because starting with "Mad World" the Cinerama movies weren't really Cinerama.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:01 PM   #304 of 463
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Mad World is a movie that takes full advantage of the 2.76:1 apect. Whatever the DVD is, it chops off some important information from the original, including actors faces.

I have an illustration I sent to MGM, I'll post later.

The movies that were filmed in the MGM Camera 65/Ultra Panavision process and released on DVD in the proper aspect ratio are:

Ben-Hur
Mutiny on the Bounty
Battle of The Bulge
Greatest Story Ever Told

The following movies have not been released on DVD or the DVD does not show the full frame of the MGM Camera 65/Ultra Panavision film

Raintree County
How The West Was Won (segments)
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
The Fall of the Roman Empire
The Hallelujah Trail
Khartoum



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Old 01-29-2007, 06:21 PM   #305 of 463
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Re: IT's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World Restoratiion


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Well, that would show you how it appeared in a Cinerama theatre. But, only the three-strip films are true Cinerama and should be shown in the Smilebox process on DVD.
Debatable. Widescreen Museum contains a discussion of "rectified" Ultra Panavision films for the purposes of Cinerama presentation. Whether or not this process was ever applied to IAMMMMW is a mystery, but should be noted in any event. Here's a link: http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingcr6.htm



\"My opinion is that (a) anyone who actually works in a video store and does not understand letterboxing has given up on life, and (b) any customer who prefers to have the sides of a movie hacked off should not be licensed to operate a video player.\"-- Roger Ebert
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:36 AM   #306 of 463
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Debatable. Widescreen Museum contains a discussion of "rectified" Ultra Panavision films for the purposes of Cinerama presentation. Whether or not this process was ever applied to IAMMMMW is a mystery, but should be noted in any event. Here's a link: http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wingcr6.htm

It's not a mystery. Prints of IAMMMMW for Cinerama theatres were rectified so that they looked fine (no one looked too fat or skinny) on the curved screen. But, as Marty Hart says on his web site "While Cinerama photographed and projected an image of 146 degrees, the Ultra Panavision 70 photography in "Mad World" rarely used lenses that covered more than 50 degrees. Stanley Kramer, much to his credit, has stated flatly that this was nowhere near being Cinerama. The impact of Cinerama had been killed and only its reputation kept the name alive. "



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Old 01-30-2007, 04:41 PM   #307 of 463
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Thanks, Roland. On a barely related topic, do you know if the Seattle Cinerama has any plans to do another festival?



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Old 01-30-2007, 08:33 PM   #308 of 463
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Re: IT's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World Restoratiion


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"rectified" Ultra Panavision films for the purposes of Cinerama presentation. Whether or not this process was ever applied to IAMMMMW is a mystery

You can see in the laserdisc version and in the outtakes/deleted scenes on the DVD that some of the shots are from a rectified print, because the far left and right of the frame are distorted.
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:17 AM   #309 of 463
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A question for anyone that might be in the know.

ASSUMING the will from whoever owns the film was there, and an appropriate budget was made available -

Is it still possible to restore the roadshow version of this film?

We keep reading, over the years of this thread, that on the one hand, more and more footage has been tracked down, so that we are within a minute or two of the full length (missing audio in some places and image in others) and on the other hand that materials have gone to vinegar and have been junked.

Or should we maybe all just zip our lips and as RAH has stated, fly under the corporate radar.....



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Old 04-06-2007, 03:46 PM   #310 of 463
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Re: IT's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World Restoratiion


It's already in the can and ready to go..
just need some backers and hackers ....

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies...inerama04.html
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:11 PM   #311 of 463
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