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Old 01-03-2003, 10:38 AM   #1 of 21
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Should DVD's take up the full screen on Widescreen (16x9) TV's?


Hello,
I recently purchased a Gateway Plasma TV that is 16X9. I also purchased a JVC progressive scan DVD player (JVC XV-S502SL). When I first watched a DVD (LOTR) it had the black bars on the top and bottom until I used the ZOOM feature on the TV.

I was then playing with the DVD players features and found in the menu that the Display type was set to 4:3. I quickly changed this to 16x9 and now any DVD takes up the full screen without using the ZOOM feature.

So my question is, am I overscanning the DVD by setting the DVD player to 16x9? Or should DVDs take up the full screen on a widescreen TV? Thanks for any help.

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Old 01-03-2003, 11:16 AM   #2 of 21
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It all depends on how the movie was shot. LOTR is a 2.35:1 movie, and your TV measures approximately 1.77:1. So on that movie (and others of its ilk) you will still have small black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. You will also get the improved resolution offered to 16:9 sets for weidscreen movies. Zooming in to avoid those thin bars will just devalue that resolution.
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:26 AM   #3 of 21
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Depending on overscan 1.85 movies may fill the screen with no or almost no letterboxing efect. 2.35 movies will still have the bars albeit lesser than on a 4:3 set. But as the poster said above the anamorphic enhancement will give you a greatly more detailed picture


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Old 01-03-2003, 11:38 AM   #4 of 21
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Think in terms of rectangles and their dimensions. Movies come in all sorts of rectangular shapes, from the almost-square Academy Ratio to the ultra-wide 2.76:1 of Ben-Hur. TVs, on the other hand, come in only two rectangular shapes. Obviously, those two shapes cannot accommodate all the movie shapes. Black bars will therefore always be with us.



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Old 01-03-2003, 11:40 AM   #5 of 21
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Something doesn't make sense here. Your DVD player should definitely be set to 16x9, but if your TV is set to Full (as it should be) you should still see small black bars on the top and bottom for 2.35 movies like LOTR to properly preserve the aspect ratio.

You can educate yourself using the resources found here.



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Old 01-03-2003, 12:06 PM   #6 of 21
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Oh, Thank goodness,
When I saw the topic I was afraid this was going to turn into a pan&scan to 16x9 thread.

I was recently in a Best Buy where someone was looking to buy a 16x9 set so that they could watch DVD's without the black bars. I had never seen a more extreme example of "more money than brains"
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Old 01-03-2003, 01:55 PM   #7 of 21
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Should DVD's take up the full screen on Widescreen (16x9) TV's?
To reiterate what's already been said, the correct answer is "sometimes". Taking into account overscan, movies shot in 1.85:1 like E.T. will fill the screen. Movies filmed in wider aspect ratios (2.35:1 and wider) like Braveheart will contain small black areas at the top and bottom. Don't try to adjust your player or your set to make a 2.35 film fill the entire screen. You'll either end up distorting the picture or chopping information off the left and ride sides.


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Old 01-03-2003, 02:07 PM   #8 of 21
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Old 01-03-2003, 02:21 PM   #9 of 21
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Think in terms of rectangles and their dimensions. Movies come in all sorts of rectangular shapes, from the almost-square Academy Ratio to the ultra-wide 2.76:1 of Ben-Hur. TVs, on the other hand, come in only two rectangular shapes.


So with all the different aspect ratios movies are shot at, why don't movies have black bars when shown in the theater since the screen is one size (i.e., like a widescreen TV)? Are the projectors adjustable based on AR to fill the screen?
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Old 01-03-2003, 02:27 PM   #10 of 21
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So with all the different aspect ratios movies are shot at, why don't movies have black bars when shown in the theater since the screen is one size (i.e., like a widescreen TV)? Are the projectors adjustable based on AR to fill the screen?


in most theaters, the curtains simply adjust the width of the viewable portion of the screen to fit the proper aspect ratio.
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