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Old 07-24-2004, 01:19 AM   #1 of 29
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Netflix and "rental" discs


This is disappointing. Neflix sent a "rental" disc for THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT which does not include everything that a purchaser of the set will get. Now, the same thing happens for STARSKY & HUTCH (2004). It's a rental disc but I don't know if I'm missing anything (I'll check later). Are there any other titles like this? I wrote to Netflix expressing my dismay at this practice.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:10 AM   #2 of 29
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There are other titles. I know that Gus Van Sant's Elephant was a rental only disc and did not include the special features included in the retail version.



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Old 07-24-2004, 09:22 AM   #3 of 29
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hmmmm... after reading this post, and some complaints in the Butterfly Effect review thread, I decided to check out the Netflix description (it's in my queue). Check this out!
I am not sure when this changed, but it looks like they are covering their asses now.



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Old 07-24-2004, 10:01 PM   #4 of 29
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I've seen Usenet posters give the opinion that Netflix does this because those discs are double sided and more prone to damage, and that NF allegedly asks for special rental versions that are not double sided (which means more discs sometimes). That may explain why for some TV series that they offer, there are more discs listed on the NF website than on Amazon (Example: 5 from NF vs 3 from Amazon for Wonder Woman).

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Old 07-24-2004, 11:28 PM   #5 of 29
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That's correct...there was a discussion of this before, but I don't remember which thread. I don't have a problem with it if they advertise it as such (i.e. Butterfly Effect). However, the DISCS themselves still tell you to "flip the disc" to see the other cut or special features, and THAT bugs me!



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Old 07-24-2004, 11:32 PM   #6 of 29
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I just had Deliverance from Netflix. It was a two sided disk. One side for the widescreen and one for the mutilated version.
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Old 07-25-2004, 06:59 PM   #7 of 29
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Fortunately, Starsky & Hutch (2004) had everything intact, but there are not many extra features on the original disc anyway so they don't lose anything.

Another Netflix "rental" title is The Big Bounce (2004).

Both of these titles are from Warner Bros. Is New Line Home Video still part of Warner? (Sneaky how Netflix put that disclaimer for The Butterfly Effect. Before that notice came up, I had written them a scathing, but professional, note about how disappointing TBE disc was.)

And they raise their prices for this?
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:16 PM   #8 of 29
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Netflix does this because those discs are double sided and more prone to damage


I've been watching West Wing on DVD through NetFlix. The first season is 3 double sided discs. I received one of them that was cracked in the mail.

Although the second season is 3 double sided discs if you purchase it, NetFlix has it as 6 single sided discs.
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Old 07-26-2004, 08:43 PM   #9 of 29
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Although the second season is 3 double sided discs if you purchase it, NetFlix has it as 6 single sided discs.


Before I address that quote, let me digress: I was a VERY early user of Netflix (I believe they only had 2 distribution centers at that time!). In the "old days", if there was a title that was a 2-disc release, you got both discs at once; please remember, 2-disc sets were the exception, not the rule at the time. Multi-disc sets were practically non-existent at that time. I think they changed the multi-disc DVD policy when The Sopranos came out. Here were people getting four discs at a time, even though their subscription was for three discs.

Now, regarding your statement: the answer is probably three-fold.
1. It (in theory) lets six different people rent from one set.
2. It makes more sense (and money) for Netflix since it forces you to rent six discs instead of three.
3. If one disc breaks, it still allows for five other rentals to occur until the disc is replaced.

And there you have it!



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Old 07-27-2004, 05:53 AM   #10 of 29
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This is an assumption and Netflix is usually good about updating their pages, but this stands out negatively in my mind.

Hellboy is a 2-disc Special Edition being released today. However, when you rent the disc, it does not allow you to rent the "Bonus Disc" (as older multiple disc titles say). So I am assuming that this title will be yet another "rental" disc. But looking at the back cover, it seems as if the extras are split equally on both discs. Disc Two has some very interesting features (including "And Much More") that I would like to see. If anyone rents it soon, let us know here.

Maybe we should start compiling a list of these "rental" discs that Netflix is using just to see...
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:53 AM   #11 of 29
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If anyone rents it soon, let us know here.


My copy should be here tomorrow; I will post what I received Wed. afternoon.

I wish they would include a disclaimer in the film description along these lines: "This is a rental only disc and my not contain all the features of the commercial release."

How does Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, Walmart.com or Nicheflix handle the 2-disc issue? Anyone care to chime in?



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Old 07-27-2004, 05:39 PM   #12 of 29
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