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02-03-2005, 12:21 PM
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Denon 2805 vs Pioneer VSX-1014TX-K
Based on your experiences, how do these receivers compare?
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02-03-2005, 12:54 PM
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You know what??? So many people are asking this. I am going to have to really at least audition this Pioneer model, I have not as of yet.
I'd think the non-digtal amp would be much better, but I may just be old school on these matters.
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02-03-2005, 10:20 PM
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Non digital amp? Which is that? One thing I noticed about the Pioneer is tht it has less inputs than the Denon, for me that is a big thing, I know that I will definitely use the 3 component video ins the Denon has
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02-04-2005, 04:42 AM
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Kevin, for3 Comp inputs, you need to wait for the 1015tx.
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02-04-2005, 02:29 PM
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Well, isn't comparing a $500 and $900 receiver kinda unfair?
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02-04-2005, 03:48 PM
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The Pioneer has newer "digital amp" technology.
Lighter, less power draw on the AC side. They typically don't even come close on THD numbers though. I really just don't know much about them or have any experience with them is all.
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02-04-2005, 06:49 PM
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"The Pioneer has newer "digital amp" technology."
Huh? The 1014TX is basically the same as the 52TX, and I don't think either of those has what anyone would consider digital amplification - at least not the same digital as you'd find in new Panasonics, etc. Maybe we're mixing those two "P" manufacturers?
There are a bunch of 1014 threads here (and elsewhere ;~), including one in this forum that's gotten huge (even bigger than Jabba the Hut). I'd bet there are some more details in there...
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02-04-2005, 07:14 PM
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I know it si difficult comparing receivers with a $400 difference. I just wanted to make sure that I couldn't get the $900 receiver for $500
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02-04-2005, 08:34 PM
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I've had quite a bit of experience with the 2805 and with a Pioneer VSX-45TX, a precursor to the 1014.
The 2805 has lotsa cool features, virtually the same as most $1.2k receivers, and they all work just fine.
Problem is that it sounds sorta thin compared to the Pioneer, as Frodo would say "like butter spread over too much bread." I think the 2805 is sorta like a 1.2k receiver feature set tacked onto a $299 receiver amp section. It gets a bit harsh sounding at high volumes whereas the Pioneer never sounded strained.
As a pre-pro with separate amplification I don't think the 2805 could be beat at anywhere near it's price, but if you don't want to go that route I'd go with the cheaper Pioneer. Give up a couple of features for a bit better basic performance.
Now, if you're looking at $899 receivers (B&M list for the 2805, you won't get it much cheaper and still have a warranty) you might consider a Harman Kardon AVR-635 from OneCall. Blows both the 1014 and 2805 away for under $900 shipped, has the best auto-setup/eq system on the market at this time, even eq's the sub which the 2805 and 1014 don't. It's 75wpc rating is very very conservative. In reality it plays louder and cleaner than the Denon or the Pioneer.
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02-04-2005, 09:01 PM
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It's 75wpc rating is very very conservative. In reality it plays louder and cleaner than the Denon or the Pioneer.
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Not sure about the 635 but the 2805 will have more 1&2 channel output than the 630. The 630 would have slightly more 5&7 channel output than the 2805.
The 1014, reportedly can do 5X125 at 1% THD, should have more power than the 630. HK rated their power output conservatively but that does not automatically mean their 75WPC beats their competitor's 120WPC. |
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02-05-2005, 04:55 PM
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Just reporting my own experience with the 3 recievers. Granted my 45tx is not a 1014, but it's power spec is actually higher in that it's rated at 20-20,000 hz vs 1000hz for the 1014 and is nearly 10lb heavier.
Academic in a way and not fair to the 1014 when price is taken into account. With street and internet pricing ( with warranty) ranging from $400ish to $699 the 1014 is imho the absolute best bang for the buck out there right now. I am also of the opinion that as far as real power and basic sound performance it is superior to the Denon 2805.
The main thing I was trying to express was that the 635 at internet pricing (and Onecall as well as Vann's are authorized so your warranty is good) is a significantly superior unit to the Denon 2805 which is not available with a warranty for less.
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