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09-01-2004, 12:39 AM
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A newbies new system
Separates vs. A/V Reveiver...
Ok, so I've been lurking for a few days now, finally signed up and herein is my first post.
I'm looking to start building a sytem, and I say building because I'm planning on picking up a pair of speakers and well something to drive them, though I'm not sure which way to go, separates or an a/v receiver. And then overtime (months/years) add into it, center, surrounds and what not. I'm moving in a month to an apartment, and well at the moment I don't have much of anything so I'm sure that's going to burn a hole into my pocket book before I even start on this. It's also not a terribly large apartment, so I'm probably looking at sticking with the pair of speakers and maybe adding in a sub over the course of the next year. Anyways, I'm thinking I don't want to go far over $3000 for everything, in fact, if I kept it under $3000 I'd be quite happy. I'm planning on taking my time with this, because in the end I want what I buy now (or in the next few months) to stick with me for a long while... I guess I'm just looking for some suggestions, and more recently I've been listening more to music than watching movies.
Thanks,
kevin.
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09-01-2004, 09:42 AM
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John
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$3000 just for audio or does that also include video (TV?)
JB
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09-01-2004, 11:17 AM
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The $3000 is just for the audio, I've got the video part taken care of for the time being.
-kevin.
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09-01-2004, 11:24 AM
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I vote separates at that budget. Hands down.
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09-01-2004, 02:14 PM
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I think that it might be sqeezing it a little tight to fit separates in plus 5.1 speakers. If it were my money, I'd check out a good receiver such as the new Rotel or the Denon 3805 and look to buy speakers from one of the excellent online companies such as GR Research, ACI, Rocket, Axiom, Ascend, etc. I'd also do a lot of listening locally and see what they have to offer as well as defining my particular tastes regarding speakers. Then, if I didn't quite find what I wanted price/quality wise, I'd do a search of the online companies to try and determine what speakers might best match my needs/taste. Remember that the best audition is in ones own listening environment and I personally wouldn't hesitate risking the shipping cost for what might be a better bargain with one of the online dealers.
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09-01-2004, 03:01 PM
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I recommend the following setup:
Speakers:
2 x Studio20 - $600
1 x Studio CC - $200
2 x Titans - $200
1 x Subwoofer (SVS) - $500
Receiver:
Denon 3805 - $1000
Source:
Pioneer 563A Universal Player - $150
Cables:
AR Interconnects, Home Depot/Parts Express 12Ga speaker wire, Optical, S-Video etc : $100
The whole shebang for $2750
This should give you a very satisfactory music as well as HT experience. It will keep you happy for a long long time, IMHO. But that is only if you stopped hanging out here pretty soon.
Best of luck.
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09-01-2004, 03:27 PM
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You sound like you are a good candidate for some nice bookshelf speakers. I'd highly recommend looking at the Paradigm Reference 20's and 40's, PSB Platinum M2, some B&W 705's and anything by JM Lab. Just to name a few. As for electronics I'd look for a nice 2 channel amp or maybe two monoblock amps. The Outlaw Audio monoblocks would be pretty sweet. You'll probably want to put a good amount of money towards a nice 5.1 or 7.1 preamp. I don't have any specific models to tell you, but you'll want something here that you can grow with. This will probably be the most expensive componant you will be buying for the stereo setup you described above, with the capability to go 5.1 or 7.1.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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09-01-2004, 05:32 PM
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$3K just for audio, is that the including everything in the end, or just the Receiver/separates, source and 2 speakers for now and you will add to that later?
"The trouble with the world is not that people know too little, but that they know so many things that ain't so." - Mark Twain
HT: Marantz SR-8300, MA500 monoblocks x 2, 5X GR Research A/V-2s, Adire Audio Tempest sub, Denon 2900, Oppo 980H, Toshiba HD-A2, RC2000MkII remote, Panamax 5100, Panamax Max2 sub, Slim PS2, PS3 60G + 320G USB
Bedroom: Marantz PM-7200 Integrated, GR Research A/V-1s, Sony 222ES SACD, RC3200 remote, Panamax M8EX
Audio: Audioquest * Video: Bluejeans
My DVDs  My HT
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09-01-2004, 07:05 PM
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That budget? There is no way dude can afford decent seperates with that.
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09-01-2004, 07:32 PM
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He can if he goes used, but I agree, $3k for good separates AND decent speakers is going to be tough. $3K for a good receiver, source and a pair of speakers could be done easily though.
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Receiver:
Denon 3805 - $1000
Source:
Pioneer 563A Universal Player - $150
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$1k on a receiver and $150 on a source? If it were me, I'd rethink that. Stick with the receiver, but foot the cash for a much nicer source.
"The trouble with the world is not that people know too little, but that they know so many things that ain't so." - Mark Twain
HT: Marantz SR-8300, MA500 monoblocks x 2, 5X GR Research A/V-2s, Adire Audio Tempest sub, Denon 2900, Oppo 980H, Toshiba HD-A2, RC2000MkII remote, Panamax 5100, Panamax Max2 sub, Slim PS2, PS3 60G + 320G USB
Bedroom: Marantz PM-7200 Integrated, GR Research A/V-1s, Sony 222ES SACD, RC3200 remote, Panamax M8EX
Audio: Audioquest * Video: Bluejeans
My DVDs My HT
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