Help a home theater neophyte out!

John_Rhett · 05-10-2004, 03:32 PM

I was recommended to this message board by a friend, so I thank you ahead of time for any recommendations you may give me.

I have suffered for too long now with just a plain ol' TV, and it's time to spice it up. I have a DVD player already, and now I want to get a receiver and surround system to go with it so I can enjoy the audio part of the digital experience. I have all these great DVDs I haven't been able to enjoy because my audio goes fuzzy when I turn up to "7," much less "11."

I live in an apartment with neighbors I don't want to annoy, but I wanted to get one of those surround systems. There's some really cheap out-of-the-box speaker systems, like the KLH HTA-9706 6-Piece 100-Watt Home Theater Speaker System for only $70 plus shipping. The amazon user ratings are all pretty good. That's the kind of price I like! I'm just wondering if it's money well spent, or if I could spend a little more for something far better. For all I know, this system is actually a piece of junk. I don't want to buy a piece of junk.

Also, I need to get a receiver. How does the HARMON KARDON DPR 1001 Digital Receiver stack up? $500 ain't bad. Or is there something better out there? I am starting from scratch here, folks, so I can go with just about anything. I don't want to spend a buttload of money, but who does? I'm thinking I'd like to spend as much as I can on a good receiver, since it's something I'll use alot. I have intentions of getting an SACD player soon (one day, can't afford right now....,) and eventually moving into a larger apartment or a new home, where I can really crank stuff, so I would like to buy something I can use for awhile.

Since I'm using DVD and SACD for both video and audio, I want to make sure I'm up to date on all the 5.1 and 6.1 stuff.

Also, I've read here and there that I might need to upgrade on some good cables to connect components to my receiver. I really appreciate any help and advice someone can give me. I'm starting from total scratch right now.

Tim Stumpf · 05-10-2004, 03:46 PM

If you're really starting from scratch, take the time to read as many posts as you can on these boards. After awhile, you start to learn what to move towards and what to avoid.

Set a budget. Then start listening to the different gear that's out there at as many places as you can. You'll start to develop ideas about what sounds good to you and what does not. Trust your own ears and buy what you like.

I personally think that you'll find the biggest differences in gear when listening to speakers. There are so many different sounds and brands and price points. I think a good set of speaker is the best investment you can make in this hobby. A good set of speaker that you trully like can last many years and get you through several upgrades of receivers etc. Also, don't underestimate the importance of a good subwoofer, surrounds and a center channel.

I think that many people who buy a cheaper system initially only end up upgrading and sometimes wasting money. If you do your homework and audition the gear before you buy, you'll be happier in the long run. That's my .02. Happy hunting. It's can be almost as much fun to put together a system and tweak it as it is to listen to your content.

t.

John Garcia · 05-10-2004, 04:28 PM

1) settle on an actual budget

2) go listen to speakers that would be reasonable for that budget. $100 for 5 speakers with a $500 receiver is a mismatch.

3) decide on a receiver - features first, then sound properties, amplification level, etc... for the top 2-3 choices of speakers. Since you want to crank it, get something with plenty of power, but don't expect it to make cheap speakers sound great.

Quote:

Since I'm using DVD and SACD for both video and audio, I want to make sure I'm up to date on all the 5.1 and 6.1 stuff.

Explain? You will need a receiver with multi-channel analog inputs to utlize DVD-A and SACD. All decent receivers in the last 5+ years should have this, and those will all be compatible with 5.1. Most current (decent) models of major manufacturers are 6.1 capable, certainly in the $500 range where there are quite a few good choices.

Get this stuff first, worry about cables later.

Less expensive speakers that seem to be pretty popular:

www.hometheaterdirect.com

www.fluance.com

John_Rhett · 05-10-2004, 10:35 PM

Thanks to both of you for your advice. I'm going to take you up on it tomorrow, by checking out some stuff at a couple local stores here. Thanks for taking the time. I'm not all that hard to please. The way I see it, that one set of speakers is a steal at $70 if it's even remotely serviceable. Yeah, maybe it's a mismatch for a higher-end receiver, but I don't have that huge a budget to spend on right now, and if I can save money on one side of the equation, I'd like to do it. I don't see many quality receievers out there for $70!

(Please tell me if I'm missing any!)

I'm looking at buying a house sometime next year, so if I can get a decent set of speakers for $70 for a year, that's cool with me. I don't want- however- utterly craptastic speakers, so if anyone has anything really bad to say about this choice, lemme know! I really appreciate it- this message board is a great resource, I've been reading alot of the threads.

Drew_W · 05-10-2004, 10:41 PM

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=120328

If you haven't read that, give it a good read through. Lots of great stuff in there.

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Tim Stumpf · 05-11-2004, 07:39 AM

$70 dollar speakers are going to sound like $70 speakers. If you don't really care, go for it. Re-evaluate later after you've decided if this is good enough for you or not. It's a little bit of an addicting hobby for me and others. For you, maybe not?? It comes down to priorities and how much money you're willing to spend on your gear vs the fun it brings you.

John Garcia · 05-11-2004, 11:05 AM

I don't see it as a problem to get the $70 speakers, and they will likely still be a step up from TV speakers. However, as Tim said, starting with really cheap speakers most likely means you will be looking to upgrade much sooner than not, so while it seems like you are saving money, all you are really doing is delaying the inevitable, so to speak.

John Brill · 05-11-2004, 12:01 PM

If you are considering $70 speakers and spending $500 on the Harmon Kardon DPR 1001 that gives you a budget of $570.

At that price I'd consider:

1) Onkyo HTiB: HTS760 for $499 at Circuit City
2) Yamaha HTiB: YHT450 for $495 MSRP (Yamaha.com)
3) Denon HTiB: DHT-484XP for $549 MSRP (Denon.com)

All of these come with not so great speakers but probably better than the $70 speakers on amazon... and decent, entry level receivers. I've noticed that all of these are also available on Amazon.com for cheaper...

Bottom line, set yourself a budget and go from there.

JB

Jimi C · 05-11-2004, 01:43 PM

Have you listened to that KLH set before? They have a similar KLH set at Best Buy you should go check it out.